It’s been reported that in the German elections, a far right party has made ‘significant gains’.
In the UK (at least before the scandals) Reform UK seems to have had a significant boost and has even surpassed the right-wing Conservative Party in some polls/predictions.
Even France, one or two years ago, was threatened with a far-right government due to the French far right party gaining a lot of support.
It feels like in the last few years, the far-right has exceeded itself and had a surge in popularity. Is this the case? And if so, wtf is fuelling it?
Billionaires. It’s not just a coincidence that so many countries are shifting far right. In any sane society, billionaires wouldn’t exist while there are homeless people living on the street
Shame we don’t live in a sane world then, i guess
Inequality and decades of painting anything left as evil communism.
Plus liberals would rather hand the reins to fascists than socialists.
Victim blaming is also something rapists do.
I would never blame the victims of fascism.
The Left is for sure partly responsible.
There’s a lot of things the ‘left’ will not address or even admit is a problem. There’s a stubbornness to them that is undoing them.
On top of them not being actually on the left… And apparently hating the actual left to the point of happily destroying themselves.
What are you actually trying to say? It’s extremely vague and hard to get at your point.
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So this is why people don’t like your comment:
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It’s vague. You’re not actually taking a specific stance on anything; you’re just vaguely complaining about “things” that the left will not address, and “stubbornness”, so that someone can fill in the gaps with something it would be reasonable to complain about.
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It has the appearance of someone conflating “Leftism” with “The Democratic Party of the United States.” That’s generally bad form.
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The context of this post is a worldwide rise in right-wing views, so the above point is even worse than normal. Whatever issue you’re thinking of (which we don’t know, because you’re not actually taking a position, per the first point), it’s possible it isn’t associated with Leftism outside of the US at all.
No one can tell you that you’re wrong if you never actually make a specific claim, right?
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Not everyone is american bud
There’s an actual German party called The Left. You capitalized it, yet I still don’t think you’re referring to them. You’re just dumb and barely literate. You go on to out it in quotes. ??? If you are referring to the party, they won locally and are on the rise. They’re offering something the center doesn’t, an off-road to an unpopular war and sanctions that’s only hurt them and helped American billionaires. They’re offering something the right doesn’t, Mamdani-like reforms in Berlin.
Democracy works when you offer what your electorate need, not what your donor demand.
- Rising costs / decline in incomes
- Failing infrastructure
- Decline in education
- Repression of history
- Brainwash through social media
- Nostalgia
Social media promoting far right content
People have drastically less free time than 30+ years ago. That free time was crucial for forming community, emotional fulfillment, and pursuing personal goals. Deprived of these things leaves people vulnerable to manipulation and mutually exclusive thinking.
Conservatism is a political movement masquerading as philosophical/principled. It appeals to peoples good intentions, validates their preconceptions, defines their identity in negative terms, and binds their self worth to their status within their group.
Anf a lot of the free time they now have isn’t spent con forming these communities, but on social media instead where they get a steady diet of right wing bullshit
Billionaires are pouring infinite money into right wing movements. They have no scruples and can pay anyone they need to get what they want done. The problem is capitalism because it creates extreme unelected power in an extremely small self interested minority. They also fund the power centers of the left to keep things from moving too far against them. Elections move on money far too much. In the end, you can’t have democracy and capitalism. Slowly capitalism always tries to swallow democracy.
not just the billionaires, but also state actors that want to see europe or britain or america or ‘the west’ in general, implode into chaos and disarray.
It’s an ouroboros. The ultra wealthy finance state actors till they become rich (insider trading,etc), then they enter the private sector and become even more filthy rich by getting executive jobs or board seats to lobby the next state actor they can corrupt. I always follow the money, because there are very few true believers actually in power.
Until actual power takes root. Ask how all those wealthy people who helped putin, stalin, mao, hitler into power did in the end.
Their wealth makes them powerful, that power makes them feel invincible. Until somone gains enough politial power to burry them.
See how quckly elon musk bent to trump when they started their little spat. Money is powerful, but the politically powerful still control the police and military.
Dictatorships hustorically are all supported by the wealthy. The wealthy think they can control the dictator. Then the dictator turns on them because he no longer needs their support.
I’m extremely curious, what “wealthy people” put the Bolsheviks and CPC into power? Russian workers and peasants, and the Chinese peasantry, are “wealthy?”
wealthy people who helped putin, stalin, mao
Stalin
Mao
What the fuck are you talking about?
You could interpret this as Stalin and Mao’s opposition to capitalist parasites as what put them into power.
Thanks for the help, kulaks!
You seem to be conflating democracy with capitalism, and history with a world of imagination.
Which actors from the State are you referring to?
It’s definitely what I want to see happening also, from the State of Washington.👍📉🔥
Yes yes, it’s all the fault of perfidious foreigners…
The world is complex. Humans aren’t equipped to deal with that level of complexity. Also the amount of information we are bombarded with is far beyond what we have evolved to deal with.
The right offers a simple solution.
There is one group, “the other”, that is the root cause of all your problems. Get rid of them and everything will be swanky again.
This plays on one of our earliest and most ingrained senses of survival. As a social tribal species, we are very good at noticing things that are “like us” and “normal”. “Different” and “new” was a potential threat. It literally kept our species alive against far more powerful predators and competition from like species back we we huddled together against the dark night.
Unfortunately we’re just wired that way. It takes knowledge, wisdom and a healthy dose of curiosity/wonder to overcome that. Why do you think one of the first goals of the right is to dismantle education?
Sounds so very 1984
“GOLDSTEIN! GOLDSTEIN!!!” They cried out
Putin! Putin!
An infamous historic empire’s bloodthirsty nature is no news to me, but the Anglo American Empire has reached its end.
Russia has more natural resources than any other nation, ESPECIALLY per capita. That’s all you need to know about the West’s adversarial nature toward them.
Europe and America have never been satisfied without stealing what’s not theirs to feed this veracious appetite of the capitalist rulers.
It takes familiarity. It is likely why urban areas tend to be more liberal than spread out rural areas.
Also to add that the people with money and power control the game, they have total control over the news papers/channels/websites, the algorithms on social media, everything.
They push their agenda and whatever they need to keep us distracted, arguing, missing the actual things that matter and disillusioned to our ability to change the direction we are heading.
Power will always be in the interest of maintaining power.There is more than enough money and food to go around, there is the ability to throw our best and smartest at solving our problems and people as a whole generally are good and want to get along.
The cost of people with the mental sickness that allows them to disregard everybody else to continue endlessly sucking up every bit of power and money is immeasurable.The only real solution is to provide as much friction as possible. Push back when you can, be a voice of change or support somebody else who is that voice for you, dont be afraid to question your own beliefs, do what you can to help and be kind to your fellow human.
I agree that democracy doesn’t work without an informed and educated electorate. That’s why college should be free, like it is IN GERMANY.
It’s highly possible that at least some Germans voted for AFD because they’re the only major party offering an end to an unpopular war and sanctions that has destroyed the German economy and climate goals.
I’d probably just not vote at all, but I could understand how some might.
The problem is billionaires controlling policy, but not so much AFD’s policies.
But they’re fascists, so they will probably also support Ukraine once they get what they wanted. Power. Same as Trump’s empty promises on ending wars.
It started with the War on Terror of the 2000s destabilizing the Middle East and leading to an influx of refugees into Europe. White supremacists naturally freaked out when they saw more than one brown person, so this started an anti-immigrant sentiment which only continued to build throughout the years. Couple that with funding from rich white supremacists and propaganda from foreign agents like Steve Bannon, and here we are.
And the internet, it went mainstream in the 2000s, in everyone’s pockets by the mid 2010s. Where a village would have a couple of idiots, maybe a racist, maybe a pedo. They were all relatively isolated from others like them in the world. On the internet they banded together, like everyone else but without a society to tell them no, the impressionable and idiots started following the wrong people. Add in a rich sociopath on mainstream media and the foreign interference, and here we are
Left: why are bogans voting for Pauline Hanson
Left: well they’re evil white supremacists
Meanwhile Mohammed tells me we’re letting the wrong kind of people into this country (Indians).
Left: Only white people can be racist!
Until you accept that people everywhere hate mass immigration you have no fucking chance.
Same thing that happened to the US.
I see a lot of blame on “brainless idiots” or similar labels when discussing this, but I think that’s dismissive of issues many parties seems to be ignoring, or exacerbating, and that the alt-right is pouncing on.
Not everyone who voted Trump is an idiot, and doubling down on that thinking will make the issue worse.
Another is that the far-right parties tend to be “modern” and very social media savvy, whereas establishment centrist parties are out of touch, and campaign in archaic ways. And (from my impression on the outside) the more leftist European parties are prone to disunity and infighting. They don’t benefit from scandal and controversy like the far right does.
You’re right, they’re not all dumb. A lot of them are just plain evil.
Yeah that’s a good way to win elections.
Found the liberal
This is dismissive.
I know otherwise smart, college or post grad people who voted Trump. I know working professionals, who aren’t religious or anything, who would probably vote for him again over whatever Dem runs. And the left blanket labeling them as evil idiots is exactly what Fox News, WSJ, or their social feeds harp on.
I’m not trying to drag the US into this, I’m just positing that Europe is falling into the same trap. You can dismiss these people, but the far right won’t; they will happily take their vote.
Stating the truth is not dismissive. The fact that you can dismiss their actions as not evil is the very evil that has allowed this to happen.
I know working professionals, who aren’t religious or anything, who would probably vote for him again over whatever Dem runs.
Ok but why?
Honestly, i genuinely believe that social media algorithms are being manipulated by billionaires to push an agenda that saves them from tax or accountability.I am centre left and try to mould fb and insta feeds by specifically flagging content i dislike or dont agree with and it keeps coming back. Some of the insane ‘stop the boats’ shit i see here in the uk from creators and bots i have never heard of or interacted with in anyway is very, very suspicious.
Agreed. It’s not an accident or an attempt to drive engagement. It is a targeted propaganda and influencing campaign. That’s the exact reason I am on Fediverse.
A couple years ago I cut way back on YouTube because it kept trying to steer me into right-wing bullshit. Example: I like construction and I have dreamed about building a cabin. I watched a few videos about timber frame structures. A couple about hand-made buildings. All of a sudden, I noticed that the creator of one video was building a cabin with a holstered gun. Weird, I thought - until I checked the new list of recommended videos. I had fallen into the alt-right prepper wasteland, just because I think nailing boards is fun.
It’s a two-pronged attack.
One is russia. They have “chaos campaigns” going back decades just to sow discord and cause disruption in Europe. There’s no better discord and disruption than threatening the EU as a whole.
The second is big American businesses and billionaires, because they hate how the EU presents a unified front against their bullshit and actually forces them to do things that chip into the bottom line.
In a way, it is a united reactionary front. And I don’t mean that as a pejorative, Vance has connections to the self-called Neoreactionary movement.
Weird how these two things are so opposed. How does this make sense to you? The mainstream parties lost because they tied their policies to an unpopular war and sanctions that destroyed the German economy and climate goals. This created a huge vacuum for AFD. The Left opposes arming Nazis in Ukraine and they won locally, if not nationally. Big winner: Nazis everywhere.
But yeah, Russia. That’s why you’re a loser. 🙄
You can always trust Westerners to blame all their countries problems on sinister conspiracy by evil foreigners
Do you mean russian chaos doctrine? It’s not a conspiracy if it’s a very well documented fact almost 100 years old.
Or did you mean the billionaires thing?
Yeah man, the West’s problems are definitely the result of a hundred year old conspiracy.
Can you not read, friend? It’s not a conspiracy, it’s a destabilisation strategy. To quote the fragment from the article I sent you:
[The] playbook [is] nearly 100 years old. In 1923, the GPU (née KGB) founded an office dedicated to “dezinformatsiya.”
It’s literally one of the most known global strategies on the planet, mate.
Yeah man, the West’s problems are definitely the result of a hundred year old
conspiracy“strategy”.Everyone knows that those dastardly Russians invented the concept of “lying” in 1923
I mean, you can keep making an idiot out of yourself or… read the article I linked? I don’t know, your choice.
Oh my God, go back to reddit
American billionaires
Anti-immigration sentiment and Islamophobia have surged in Western and Central Europe, especially when many of the establishment parties have made moves to increase immigration, i.e. the Boriswave in the UK, enacted by the centre-right party that wooed voters just months earlier by promising to “Get Brexit Done.”
Can’t really elaborate on the rise of National Rally in France and the AfD in Germany, but here in the UK we’ve had grooming gang scandals that have led to several national inquiries, numerous protests focused around the use of hotels to house asylum seekers, and three riots in the last two years which were sparked by violent crimes.
People feel betrayed because they can’t feel the benefits of economic growth. Jobs aren’t safe anymore. But funding a family still requires a stable income. Humans love having social and economic security. If a government refuses to make that happen, they will vote for whoever promises to punish the old government - even if no fix for any of the actual problems is proposed.
If you are a politician, the solution is disgustingly trivial: stop taking bribes and do your job. Governments are infrastructure. They are meant to support the people governed by them.
So far the solution implemented by the big old parties was to double down on making everyone but the Epstein class poorer until voter morale improves.Here come the antiestablishment liberals in the US, just like the antiestablishment conservatives who called others RINOs. They will never be against the establishment, just better liars. Seeing Kamala enter the stage again is disheartening. Israel buys both sides.
The predominant online presence of leftist anarchists all but vanished as corporations and social media took root. For a long time the corporate world remained skeptical of the internet. It was “just a fad” that would go away eventually. They started buying everything up, monopolizing, and controlling the narratives.
I have no doubt the fediverse makes them nervous again like they haven’t been in years. There are obvious bad actors running around these parts.
We lost bad versus good because of moral ambiguity. Now all we have is left and right. My experience with left and right is that they are both parts of the same bigger body that controls their movements.
Fear.
When people are afraid, they are less likely to help others, and want to protect their family and posessions.
Fear of what, nuclear war with Russia over something that only benefited America.
