(Shamelessly stealing this image from some crackpot carnivore diet community elsewhere on the lemmyverse, with which I have never once interacted, but noticed I have been banned from. Lulz.)
Been making home made seitan the past couple weeks and it’s so good.
I don’t even BUY meat anymore! I’m a real man! A MAN’S MAN! I find animals in the wild and I chase them until thtye die of exhaustion and I eat it RAW! I have to get shots and medication to fight off prions and parasites like every other week BUT THIS IS HOW MEN DID IT IN MEN’S DAYS! I neither rely on the big production of meat or eating “plants” like some yuppie ass hipster!
THIS IS HOW MEN SHOULD BE! WE ARE HUNTERS or something, I dunno.
shoutouts to joe biden
remember folks. if you don’t put any herbs and seasonings on your food… there is a 100% chance you are British, stupid, or more likely both. British food should be renamed “Bland shit that gets served in a dying home” (dying home = those shitty retirement homes where people go to die alone with a meal plan that makes USA public school food look like $100k plate 5 star food cooked by the best chefs in the world)
Vegetarians and vegans just hate plants more than they love animals.
It’s the mineral eaters you really need to keep your eye on.
Yeah, they’re very salty.
As a kid I used to eat handfuls of salt, probably lucky I didn’t die of sodium poisoning.
Clearly you are making this argument in seriousness and good faith, so excuse me while I spend a couple of nights and more paragraphs than anyone will read to fully articulate my carefully crafted rebuttal.
I just use salt, maybe a little powered stock of whatever animal I’m cooking so if can taste even more like that animal.
The script can very easily be flipped, OP. “If you like plants so much why are you trying to make it imitate meat?”
This is the flip. Meat eaters say this to vegans all the time. That’s the whole joke.
And vegans need to stop calling people who consume meat “meat eaters.” I have no problem with a salad and some veggies BECAUSE I’M AN OMNIVORE. (as are all you vegans because you are human and that’s LITERALLY what we are).
We didn’t become the dominant species on this planet by hunting carrots. We are predators. Get over yourself.
Oh, I learned something new. I hadn’t heard that one yet.
Short answer: for the noobs. Most vegans grow to increasingly prefer more plant-forward meals. The humble bean is by far the most underappreciated ingredient out there.
Just want to comment here, because some people seem to be trying to spread a stinky narrative: yes virtually all plants contain “toxins”. No, that does not mean they are toxic or poisonous to us. Caffeine is literally a natural pesticide; and yet coffee and teas are well known to be beneficial to our health and longevity, for just one example.
Spices are an easy way to give any meal not only better flavor, but a small punch of phytonutrients that most people are sorely lacking.
Don’t let the crackpot carnivores spread their lies.
So one of my favorite seasonings to add to hamburger, along with other beef and some pork stuff is… Beef Bullion.
Now you may scoff at the idea of this redundancy, but give it a try next time you make hamburger or beef tacos or whatever. if not, you’re missing out.
Now you should buy stock and use it instead of water in most cooking.
Or better yet, save ya bones and end pieces of meat and veg, brown it and use it to make your own. You can do this just before you cook, or whenever and just freeze or can it. If you go with the store stuff, buy stock based off of which one has the highest protein content.
I do that myself on occasion, but I seldom boil much stuff. A lil beef or chicken stock is good in mashed potatoes or in rice, but most of the time , unless I’m making a soup I use powdered bullion. It tastes better. Not even just my opinion. Blind taste tests always have most people prefer the “fake” stuff.
Really? I’d love to see some actual studies on people blind taste testing things made with stock vs. powdered bouillon. Do you have any links you can share?
Meat is too delicious, I need to add a little plant based poison to it each time to avoid meat addiction.
Didn’t some meat-guy literally try to argue vegetables are toxic to humans or some shit
I like plant too. Why discriminate 🤷♂️
You probably downvoted one of the orbiting cult communities Jet polices and so he banned you from all of them. He bans anyone who downvotes those communities. Though now he does it by a proxy account these days by the looks.
Probably. I have had interactions with them in comments on posts before too. Oh well, anyway.
Banning for a single downvote seems a bit extreme lol
Extreme? He’s fucking nuts. His alts are nuts too, you can see him patting himself on the back in his stupid fucking communities
Double post oops
It’s strange because I’ve only had good interactions with them. They were very helpful and gave me advice regarding some health issues, and even took the time to research some stuff with me
(I didn’t downvote you) It’s just weird and frustrating that people choose a hill like that to die on. It is manifestly untrue that humans are carnivores. It’s just weird (and sorry for being a little heated in my earlier reply)
I remove my own upvote from my comments; it’s my own weird thing 😂
And no worries. I think food is one of those things that is extremely specific to each person. I’m sure most people would hate what I eat every day. I would describe it as “low-GI vegetarian”
Gotta add some veggies to your diet.
Spices in quantity are generally used to improve subpar ingredients. If you get top quality meat, it needs nothing but cooking. But most of us can’t afford top quality meats all the time.
Or I could just continue to eat plants, fungi, and spices, and be happier that I can get some of the highest quality foods at mostly the lowest prices.
Don’t forget to add rocks (salt) or else it won’t taste good, even if it’s quality.
Wrong. This is an idiotic, classist distinction that’s a relic of the British pedophile class. They decided they didn’t like seasoned food when seasonings became affordable for their victims. Pure classist bullshit. Enjoy your bland food though
You’re both going to massive extremes.
Some meats when prepared well benefit from minimal seasoning. Beef when cooked well doesn’t need more than salt, but some pepper and butter basting also brings the flavor forward.
If you need steak sauce, ketchup or anything like that it’s a sign you’ve likely not cooked it the best.Chicken however just doesn’t have as much to it, so you’ll hit a flavor ceiling a bit faster.
It’s not classism, it’s fat content and connective tissue. Less fat and there’s less potential “unseasoned yum”. More connective tissue and you need to cook it longer to make it not a chewy horror, which makes the fat come out.
High quality cuts of meat require less seasoning because we define meat quality by the factors that make it more palatable without seasoning.
It’s not about not seasoning food, it’s about seasoning it correctly for what you have. Big hunk of fatty meat with connective tissue? Perfect for stew because it sits in it’s own fat, and cooking for a long time in water turns the connective tissue into gelatin.
It’s not classism
Except it is vestigial classism. It has an actual historical origin. It’s a completely ridiculous position.
I season my food, which is delicious btw, and so does the rest of the world outside of northern Europe. It makes sense because it tastes good. No historical baggage needed
Your just an angry person looking for a fight. I care less about history or tradition on the subject of food. I have had really high quality steak only a few times. With nothing more than salt, it was amazing. But I mostly eat decent steak, which benefits from some seasoning. I have also eaten low quality steak, all the seasonning in the world can’t help it. The same hase been true for other meats I have tried. So I have tried the range, and speak from personal experience. Not from some history BS.
It’s like you only read one phrase out of context.
It’s a completely ridiculous position.
That some food is better with minimal seasoning?
That the amount of seasoning you put on a food is somehow related to the nature of the ingredients?I season my food, which is delicious btw
I’m glad! I never said you shouldn’t. I said some ingredients don’t need it as much, or are better enjoyed with minimal seasoning.
and so does the rest of the world outside of northern Europe.
I’ll remember that the next time I eat sushi.
The classism came from the aristocracy making a display of wealth by choosing to ostentatiously eat the foods that benefit from less seasoning, and casting the others as “low class”.
That doesn’t make the method of preparation a relic of classism. It’s classist to say that a pot roast is low class, not to say a ribeye doesn’t need much to be delicious.Modern British food has a reputation as being unseasoned because we don’t call any of the seasoned dishes born of their empire “British”, and a lot of the other stuff got messed up by “island nation in a major war with prolonged food rationing”.
Remember that the flip side of the aristocracy avoiding seasoning to distinguish themselves is that everyone else didn’t.
I do enjoy a good pot roast too. Just because higher quality meats need less, doesn’t mean low quality with seasoning can’t be delicious.
I am vegetarian generally, but do eat meat once and a while when occasion calls for it.
Had some prime Wagyu beef in Japan and it’s very hard to beat. Definitely a top class product that’s impossible to o replace.
But generally, a lot of meat substitutes are just as good or better. Expectations are maybe a bit different, but I’ve never gotten bored of them. On the rare occasions I do have to eat meat, it’s usually disappointing.
I had an A5 (in the US though). Tasted nothing like people told me it would. But it was absolutely amazing. Never had anything that good. But cheaper steak with some seasoning was decently close.
I don’t like meat substitutes because they’re never even comparable.
I love plenty of foods that aren’t meat, but the moment you try to replace meat you’re destined to fail.Best veggie burger I’ve ever had didn’t even try to be beef. Did nice things with texture that were totally unmeat like. Closer to a Japanese croquette, but more beans.
Some of the worst have been the most similar. Tvp with ground mushrooms for umami and such.Foods should be cooked in the ways that best show them off, not in ways that invite a comparison to a different food.
It’s like trying to use meat to make a banana free banana bread. Just… Don’t.
I don’t. Embraced english food thought, even if not what they call food over there. Some rocks on my sliced and fried potatos and a bit of the same rocks on my red meat.
One does not eat chicken unseasoned tho. Tastes like cardboard.
It’s the rocks that make them crunchy.
Season your chicken with bacon grease.
