I don’t think it’s just a small amount of men who like preteens and teenagers. I would wager it’s most men. We’ve been imprisoning them for owning CP for decades now, yet the market is not shrinking. Various sources report CSAM is “exploding”…there’s been an increase of something like 70% of these websites in the past few years.
CP with younger kids is also growing. Hundreds of thousands of websites host this material in USA, not even counting dark web (and that’s just in the USA, only 20% of these sites are in USA).
How big is the market with those kind of numbers? I’m too stupid to figure it out, but I’d imagine that means many millions of men, tens of millions? It staggers the mind.
The internet has been fantastic in many ways, but it’s revealed what many men are like in private, and it’s a very ugly revelation.
The Satanic Panic was largely about the US public learning (and being aghast) that CSA is epidemic in the US. At the time, one in three women surveyed were sexually abused as kids. (There are several good deep dives on the Satanic Panic. I recommend the webcast series by Sarah Marshall.)
At the time, we just couldn’t handle the notion that CSA was being done by people the kids knew (parents, neighbors, friends, teachers, ministers and so on), so we made up the mythology of Satanic Ritual Abuse, that there were these vast rings of Satanists (not the TST kind or the LaVey kind) who were diddling kids as a way to worship the Christian devil, and gain magical power. Americans were not prepared to acknowledge that the abusers were among themselves, and so they bought into the story.
Now there are CSA rings that exist, and the Epstein child trafficking ring is among them, but it’s a smaller circle. The thing about being high enough in the ownership class is that legality (or morality) no longer is a barrier to getting stuff you want. And so there’s a preponderance of drug use, of sex tourism, of sending gay kids to conversion therapy (or troubled teens to abduction/reformation camps). And so there are industries to facilitate these needs, because the demand is there and they have money to spend.
Moreover, the global system of capitalism depends on contrived desperation. Workers who are skipping meals are more eager to take on jobs that pay meagerly and are dangerous and arduous. When food, shelter, healthcare, etc. is a right, suddenly workers cost a premium. The same thing applies to sex trafficking. After the collapse of the USSR, girls from those countries were glad to put up and put out if it meant a reliable meal ticket. Single-digit kids were on the streets peddling sexual favors for lunch money. This was a font Epstein tapped for his service staff. The more desperate the girls were, the less grooming they required.
Hopefully, this is the moment we figure it out, that as long as we have an owner class, we’re going to have systems of contrived desperation to drive bonded servitude, including child trafficking. Especially if the owner class is exponentially more wealthy than the worker class. Maybe this is the moment we are able to collectively develop class consciousness, since it directly serves to protect our children.
Many, yes. A plurality, probably. I don’t know that it’s most, but given the widespread abandon of anything resembling ethics of any kind in modern society, I think the situation is a lot worse than anyone wants to admit. Contrary to the Christian pearl clutchers, I don’t think the moral decay has anything to do with religion, but there has been a moral decay, the call is just coming from inside the house more often than it is from outside.
No, but it is more predominantly male. There’s still certain natural and social consequences that keep some people from going full nihilistic hedonist. The collapse of manners, mores, social boundaries, dignity, and basic values is troubling but reality still has a way of making crossing certain boundaries dangerous and expensive for some people.
That’s where the money is.
I don’t think it’s just a small amount of men who like preteens and teenagers. I would wager it’s most men. We’ve been imprisoning them for owning CP for decades now, yet the market is not shrinking. Various sources report CSAM is “exploding”…there’s been an increase of something like 70% of these websites in the past few years.
CP with younger kids is also growing. Hundreds of thousands of websites host this material in USA, not even counting dark web (and that’s just in the USA, only 20% of these sites are in USA).
How big is the market with those kind of numbers? I’m too stupid to figure it out, but I’d imagine that means many millions of men, tens of millions? It staggers the mind.
The internet has been fantastic in many ways, but it’s revealed what many men are like in private, and it’s a very ugly revelation.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/26/1051282/the-us-now-hosts-more-child-sexual-abuse-material-online-than-any-other-country/
First of all, pedophilia is not exclusive to any gender. I think you need to examine your hateful biases.
Do you honestly believe that billions of people are paedophiles?
The Satanic Panic was largely about the US public learning (and being aghast) that CSA is epidemic in the US. At the time, one in three women surveyed were sexually abused as kids. (There are several good deep dives on the Satanic Panic. I recommend the webcast series by Sarah Marshall.)
At the time, we just couldn’t handle the notion that CSA was being done by people the kids knew (parents, neighbors, friends, teachers, ministers and so on), so we made up the mythology of Satanic Ritual Abuse, that there were these vast rings of Satanists (not the TST kind or the LaVey kind) who were diddling kids as a way to worship the Christian devil, and gain magical power. Americans were not prepared to acknowledge that the abusers were among themselves, and so they bought into the story.
Now there are CSA rings that exist, and the Epstein child trafficking ring is among them, but it’s a smaller circle. The thing about being high enough in the ownership class is that legality (or morality) no longer is a barrier to getting stuff you want. And so there’s a preponderance of drug use, of sex tourism, of sending gay kids to conversion therapy (or troubled teens to abduction/reformation camps). And so there are industries to facilitate these needs, because the demand is there and they have money to spend.
Moreover, the global system of capitalism depends on contrived desperation. Workers who are skipping meals are more eager to take on jobs that pay meagerly and are dangerous and arduous. When food, shelter, healthcare, etc. is a right, suddenly workers cost a premium. The same thing applies to sex trafficking. After the collapse of the USSR, girls from those countries were glad to put up and put out if it meant a reliable meal ticket. Single-digit kids were on the streets peddling sexual favors for lunch money. This was a font Epstein tapped for his service staff. The more desperate the girls were, the less grooming they required.
Hopefully, this is the moment we figure it out, that as long as we have an owner class, we’re going to have systems of contrived desperation to drive bonded servitude, including child trafficking. Especially if the owner class is exponentially more wealthy than the worker class. Maybe this is the moment we are able to collectively develop class consciousness, since it directly serves to protect our children.
Many, yes. A plurality, probably. I don’t know that it’s most, but given the widespread abandon of anything resembling ethics of any kind in modern society, I think the situation is a lot worse than anyone wants to admit. Contrary to the Christian pearl clutchers, I don’t think the moral decay has anything to do with religion, but there has been a moral decay, the call is just coming from inside the house more often than it is from outside.
Is also not exclusive to men.
No, but it is more predominantly male. There’s still certain natural and social consequences that keep some people from going full nihilistic hedonist. The collapse of manners, mores, social boundaries, dignity, and basic values is troubling but reality still has a way of making crossing certain boundaries dangerous and expensive for some people.