• huquad@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I cannot stand piracy, but my computer recently escaped its containment and started downloading all these movies and TV shows that I like to watch. Does anyone know how to stop this behavior? So far I’ve tried nothing

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      2 months ago

      Tell it to download things you don’t like, too! That’s the best way to stop it.

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      2 months ago

      Keep doing nothing, eventually it will work itself out after it’s gotten all the items it wants. You’re good.

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    2 months ago

    They don’t claim that after the fact, it’s their terms of service to begin with. Just another reason to never buy anything on these services. Even paying for streaming is less of a scam since at least you aren’t being misled.

    (I can feel my huge steam library giving my hypocritical ass mad side-eye right now)

  • bzipitidoo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Tried to read an e-book from the local library. No problem downloading it, but the file was encrypted, and only an Adobe app that does not run on Linux could decrypt it. I used Wine in Linux to run the Windows version of this app, and it worked right up to the point of actually decrypting the file. Couldn’t read the e-book I’d checked out. So I pirated the book.

    I went to some trouble to download and install Wine and the Adobe software, and I resent that. Tried to do things the legal way. Could’ve saved myself much bother by pirating first and skipping the public library. I also deleted the Adobe garbage.

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      There is actually an adobe deacsm extension you can install in calibre on linux, in order to rip books in linux

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      2 months ago

      I never bought and never will eBooks

      Only physical copies and piracy (so I can actually own my stuff)

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    2 months ago

    Piracy has never been stealing.

    When you steal something, the real issue is that the other person is deprived of some tangible item they used to have.

    When you “pirate”, you’re merely violating a copyright. The government granted someone a monopoly on the expression of an idea, and you’re not respecting the government’s decision on that item’s exclusivity.

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      And like. I’d be fine with that if the primary function in practice was to ensure the original creator gets financially compensated for their work and then they can pay for copyright controlled distribution services if that helps therm make sure they get paid but that is not why or how current law is used and I’m kinda losing that it even can be.

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        Right. Copyright is supposed to be for the good of the population. In order to encourage people to create things, they’re given a short monopoly on it after which it enters the public domain. The original copyright term was 14 years, I think.

        The new setup is absurd. The public doesn’t benefit for more than a century, at which point the copyrighted item is probably of next to no value.

        And, like you said, the artist rarely benefits. Writers are probably the ones who come the closest to benefitting. They only have to pay their agent a cut, their publisher, then, finally Amazon. With advances, etc. you have to wonder how much they get paid for each additional book sold. Musicians basically don’t make anything anymore, with the bullshit that Spotify (partially owned by the record companies) does. And then movies, TV, and other video stuff, the amount that creators get is massively watered down, and that’s after the “Hollywood accounting” makes profits from even successful things disappear.

        I really don’t respect copyright anymore because it doesn’t benefit me (a member of the public) nor does it benefit the artist. It’s just a tool to hand money to certain entertainment conglomerates.

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      Exactly. It’s like jury nullification, but for copy rights. The government serves us not visa versa.

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    I know it doesn’t fit the Piracy narrative, but there’s actually more to this story. I’ve never actually heard this story, but at some point, Google gave everyone that same movie (The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring) for free. Anybody who saw the deal could claim it. I still have it. I’d gift it to this guy if I could, because I’ve since bought the extended edition trilogy in 4K. The Fellowship copy is locked to 1080p, and it’s the theatrical version. I have no reason to ever watch it. But I still have it.

    So I don’t know what happened with them losing the rights, but they did kinda try to make it right by offering a giveaway. It would have been awfully nice of them to email everyone who lost their original copy and tell them they could claim it, though. That rarely happens with giveaways. They had a few of them back then. I also got Happy Feet and Big, maybe one or two others.

    Make no mistake though. While I do have quite a nice collection of 4K movies in Apple TV (call them rentals if you want, but I won’t pay more than $5 for them, so rental is fair since I paid rental price), I have easily 10-15 times as many on my Plex server (not all 4K though, but still).

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    2 months ago

    Piracy isn’t stealing, period.

    It was totally ok to pirate movies before this practice ever took place. Information had always wanted to be free.

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    Honest question, if the movie reappears in the catalog on Google does the “ownership” return to the customer? My money is on no they would have to repurchase

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    Piracy isn’t stealing, period.

    It was totally ok to pirate movies before this practice ever took place. Information had always wanted to be free.

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      Yes and no. People so have to make a living. They are not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. But at the same time fuck the corporations.

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        Especially Indie games, DRM-free games (GOG) and physical books.

        Those are the people who deserve support

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      It’s definitely stealing. I just happen to consider it morally acceptable stealing from these fuckwits.

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        Stealing means taking something from someone that won’t have that thing anymore.

        Piracy is just duplicating. No stealing involved.

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        Steal is like taking away a cupcake from your bakery.

        Piracy is like analyzing the cupcake and thus revealing its recipe and I share it to everyone. (You wouldn’t lose your baked cupcakes but everyone makes clones out of them from the recipe.)

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          If you want to make up your own definition for stealing, then sure.

          If you want to live in reality, stealing means taking something that isn’t yours. Has nothing to do with physical items. Data can be stolen, trade secrets can be stolen, valour can be stolen, identities can be stolen.

          None of these require physically removing an item from someone else. They are about taking/accessing things without permission.

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            2 months ago

            Would you classify making clones/copies out of a thing and sharing them stealing?

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              If it’s something I am not allowed to have, then yeah. I would.

              If you hack into my computer and copy all my files you have 100% stolen my data. It would be insane to think otherwise.

              The entire premise is permission.

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                  No, there’s literally definitions for it. You can look it up. All of them have some element of permission to it. It all boils down to taking something when you aren’t allowed.

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    One of the reasons for pirating is that there are no ultimate and afordable source/s of all the content. Actually there should NOT be single centralized entity which would hold the informations/data, making single point of failure (SPoF).

    By distributing the content, the risk of inaccessibility of it is decreased. That is why P2P networks like Gnutella, ED2K, Direct Connect, Soulseek and others are used.

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    Audible pulled the same shit to me when i was in the middle of reading How to Hide an Empire. only half way through, suddenly “no longer available”, yet no credit refunded to my account. Fuck you Jeffery