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Linux is an option.
Didn’t work. I switched to Linux and still no option to uninstall Cortana
sudo apt autopurge cortana
Cortana was uninstalled as part of the Linux install process. It’s a two-in-one deal.
Me: Linux, can you uninstall the bootloader and kernel?
Linux: sure thing
Me: Hey linux, uninstall GCC
Linux: are you sure?
ME: sudo do it
Linux: ok
Me: hey linux, update packages
Linux: error
Me: linux reinstall GCC
Linux: error
A short adventure with a valuable lesson learned by myself.
Linux
is an optionis the answer.What you’re referring to as the answer, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
All hail Stallman
only if the question is “What can make me so angry as to throw my computer out the window”.
lol
Computers are hard
A lot of linux desktop environments will break as well if you remove some seemingly useless package
$sudo apt remove kwrite
The following packages with also be REMOVED: kde-plasma-desktop, [all the other KDE desktop packages]
Hell yeah. I changed my main OS to Linux mint. First time on Linux, and I love it so far.
I only use Windows for stuff that Linux cant run yet.I only use Windows for stuff that Linux cant run yet
Can you share some examples? I’m genuinely curious.
What specifically do you still need Windows for? It’s possible that you can get it all running under Proton.
Ironically, Windows has the largest FOSS catalog of any OS, apart from soft proprietary of course. Also, many official and professional business apps are only available for Windows. Gaming can also be a reason to use Windows, although this is slowly changing.
Shut the fuck up man literally every single post about any other operating system is “SWITCH TO LINUX, YOU WON’T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH LINUX!!! LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER LINUX IS!!! LINUXXXXXXXX!!!”
All it does is give all the circle jerkers a reason to spam comments and not listen to anybody else’s opinions besides their own and it does absolutely nothing helpful for the post
maybe bc linux is better?
No
I guessing this is a just a bad copy pasta
My biggest issue with windows is it not telling you the exact reason for some weird behavior, and then making it intentionally difficult to go in and modify/fix it yourself.
Linux might break more often, but when it does I’ve ALWAYS been able to recover or restore it far far easier than I ever could on a windows machine, partially due to the actually helpful error messages.
Linux might break more often, but when it does I’ve ALWAYS been able to recover or restore it
Yep. On Windows the mantra is always “Just reinstall”.
Linux might break more often
I convinced my work to allow me to use Linux on my work laptop. I have far less issues now.
In my experience, Windows breaks way more often.
I can’t confirm this, since W7 until now on W10 I have not seen a BSOD again. This only happened to me in previous versions on a few occasions. It wasn’t that serious either, restarting and issue resolved. In the past with Ubuntu, which at the time was a disaster, I have had many crashes or I have been left without a desktop due to incompatibilities with it’s Compiz, changing to Kubuntu this no longer happened, resulting much more stable. In general, the current OS, be it Linux or Windows, are very stable OS.
Something breaking doesn’t need to be a BSOD. It can be minor things that either don’t work properly and annoy you, or something that breaks and now gets in your way.
However, in all three cases I would still say Linux is better. I’ve administered many hundreds (if not thousands, I honestly don’t know) of systems. So I’m not just basing my opinion on a few systems.
If you have an Windows account you also can recover it from any desaster with one click, restoring the system. But naturally you must spend an afternoon afterwards to restore your original settings, throw out all the garbage and reinstall all your applications and files.
If you have an Windows account you also can recover it from any desaster with one click, restoring the system.
Only if there’s enough of the operating system left to successfully boot and restore itself. If not, good luck.
I can resuscitate a broken Debian setup by booting a USB installer and reinstalling all of the packages on it, assuming the dpkg database
/var/lib/dpkg/statusis still intact. I can also back up the entire system, apps and all, and later restore everything; there are no hidden secret invisible file shenanigans like on Windows.
“Bad elf magic” isn’t a particularly helpful error message. (It means a shared library couldn’t be loaded because it’s corrupt, for a different kind of machine, built for a very different dynamic linker, or something along those lines.)
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Edgecore sounds like a really exciting but actually bland genre of music.
Sounds like it would be all build-up and never a drop
Didn’t they lose a lawsuit about tying the browser into the OS?
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So his Meme is correct the system will break if you force it to uninstall something?
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And the web browser being an integral part of the OS is a fucking joke to most of us.
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Do you use Android? Chrome is the native WebView that a good chunk of your apps use.
Wait… so you are talking about webviews when I was talking about the actual browser? Lmao… talk about a false equivalency.
This is got many advantages and many disavantages. If you dislike it, fair enough - but let’s not pretend this is unusual or somehow unjustifiable.
I’m talking about forcing the actual browser installation. Nothing you said has countered this, Android doesn’t force Chrome to be installed for webviews in applications. The webview class is nothing close to being a full browser, and certainly doesn’t require a browser to be installed to use it. If anything, that is an example of the right way to do it… having a separate class, that is not dependent on the actual browser installation.
Yes, please go on, I can’t wait to hear more of your ridiculous takes.
You can easily remove Edge but need to install Edge WebView.
The person you are replying to is completely right and you’re wrong.
webview != browser… what is so hard to understand about this? The fact that an OS is reliant on a browser out of the box, is absolutely ridiculous. If all these app dependencies were on the Edge Webview base instead of pointed at the actual browser installation, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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You have got to be trolling.
There’s a “Getting Started” app built in to win11 that is both completely useless and totally unremovable by any method without breaking the OS.
That’s because it’s not an app. Do “Winget list” and you’ll see it’s not there.
It’s part of the shell. Open it up, look at task manager, and you’ll see it’s not spawning new processes. Which also mean it’s irrelevant - it doesn’t add any background tasks, modifies any files or in anyway interfere with the users. It’s quite literally just an icon created by the shell.
Its more of the dependency chain. I wouldn’t consider tying your taskbar, web browser, and other microservices together like that a good thing in any ecosystem. Its not really the fact that removing system files breaks your system. Its that the taskbar and web browser should not be considered Core. People want to choose and not have their non-choice staring at them with their new gurl from the sidelines.
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Most things are probably fine, though Windows updates might do something funky or just put it back from where you threw out that trash.
But Edge is a different story. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to make Edge, their web browser, essential for Windows Explorer, their file manager and desktop among other things, to function properly.
So if you get rid of Edge, things can get kinda fucky. I haven’t looked into if someone has made a workaround, I know that there are modified “debloated” Windows installs that do some heavy duty mucking about in there, but I don’t know if anyone’s figure out how to give Edge the ax without making your desktop freak out.
Yes, though I’m pretty sure I’ve uninstalled or atleast disabled cortana with no problems
Windows is a good and stable OS with a reasonable privacy, BUT ONLY if the first thing you do in a new PC with Windows, to spend an afternoon disabling and throwing out a ton of junk, trials, unnecessary services and functions and most of the telemetry. So if you have a fast and compliant OS. Luckily Windows allows all this, but naturally it requires an advanced user (registry and servicelists can be a comanche territory if you don’t exacly know what you do) and M$ does not offer much documentation and help on this topic either, of course. But in the new online subscription version they will naturally nip these possibilities in the bud.
Lol, I am viewed as an absolute Wizard by some of my friends in IT, because I am not at all afraid of RegEdit. Just don’t touch anything at all without triple checking that that is in fact the key you want to be playing with.
I’ll have to remember “Comanche Territory”!
Use Winternals sysmon to suss out problem registry keys and file permissions and their minds will be blown.
Yes, no much problem with the cleartext software part, but the other where you see only numbers are not so easy, just easy to turn your PC into a Paperweight. This really isn’t very intuitive
Easier the Services, although you can also screw up there
Just the fact that windows has a hidden “true administrator” account that you have to use for some stuff, and is not easily accessible makes it way harder to take control of your own hardware.
Linux has the same thing, with the root account, but you can access it from a single
sudo sucommand in a terminal (which is mostly pointless since sudo itself executes commands with the highest priviledges).Also, Microsoft, not every damn thing needs a GUI. I’d rather have a good command line experience than having to trifle through the registry.
I know all this, I already mentioned elsewhere that I laugh when some users say they don’t use Linux, because it is an OS for advanced users. No, it is precisely Windows that requires a more advanced user than Linux, when you really need to modify something, which naturally cannot be done with the GUI and requires using the console (cmd). On Linux this is the rule for everything (although less and less), on Windows you can do most of it with GUI, but not all of it, if you don’t want to use a third party app. In General Windows is only easier and more intuitive to use superficially, but in depth it is a minefield, much more complicated and less intuitive than Linux.
Windows is a good and stable OS with a reasonable privacy
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What the hell dimension did I walk into?!?
I mean, hes not wrong if hes talking about Windows 7.
if hes talking about 10 or 11, then the dudes clearly on LSD.
At least W10 in this point isn`t different from W7, not sure in W11 and user intervencion with W12 and W365 online with subscription ends completely. Until now you can still gut Windows to your like, without LSD, maybe with some Tranxilium.
Read also the rest what is necessary to make Windows private and stable. Nothing new that Windows by default is a privacy nightmare, but you can change it, but how to do this is not in the Windows Helpfile.
If my OS installs broken by default. I’m just going to use something that’s not broken. Simple as that.
What trials?
Only thing I had to remove was Skype and there are tools that let you do whatever you want in a matter of minutes.
Yes, there are some tools which can help, eg https://github.com/hellzerg/optimizer, also Windows itself has the GodMode, but it need somewhat more than this and only remove Skype, MS Store and Cortana.
I don’t use Windows, but doesn’t the LTSC and/or Enterprise edition come with better defaults?
I don’t know, I’ve the Home edition and this came by default with a lot of crap and services to “improve the User experience” as they call it euphemistically and that can only be understood sarcastically.
Yeah, cause shockingly enterprise customers don’t like the idea of microsoft taking big chunks of data for no rhyme or reason.
Once, 2ish years ago I think by now? I was trying to clean up all the shit I installed to compile something because it wasnt available on apt, had a repository, or had a .deb (I was on ubuntu at the time).
I mistyped something and ended up removing Python. Got no warning, no red text, no nothing. It just uninstalled it as if it was nothing.
I rebooted, and learned that a lot of fucking shit depends on python. because I no longer had a DE and could only boot into a terminal. after 2 hours of trying to unfuck it, I just used a live cd to save what files I could and reinstalled.
Oh, and I never got the program compiled and working. and never tried again on the fresh install. I dont even remember what it was now. Something for gaming, probably.
The great advantage of Linux is the freedom to do as you please, but it also assumes that you know what you are doing. Windows also allows you to do everything, but only if you ignore the hysterical attacks of the System, but you must also know what you are doing.
an OS should never assume the user knows what its doing, cause users are idiots, even the smart ones. especially the smart ones. lol
Yes, thats the difference, Linux assume that the user knows exactly what he’s doing, Windows assume that the user is a Banjoplaying Redneck.
an OS should never assume the user knows what its doing, cause users are idiots, even the smart ones. especially the smart ones. lol
The ability to shoot yourself in the foot is great, but you have to remember that Unix is a gleeful imp holding a monkey paw and makes book on the side with his friend the evil genie.
Here’s a shotgun, go bonkers. Foot is that way. Don’t forget to sudo.
Shoedo?
This is why I use Aptitude and review all proposed changes (other than straight package upgrades) before proceeding. Blindly running stuff like
apt full-upgradeis crazy to me.That’s why gentoo is the best
Android is Windows’ twin sibling.
i can’t open .webp files anymore because edge doesn’t exist anymore, and i’m too lazy to change the “default opener program™”.
