What it actually means
Edit: looks like I fucked up grabbing a picture off ddg without looking closely. But you get the idea
Sorry but community gardening as a solution is one of the worst I’ve heard. It’s very hard to achieve the same level of scale and efficiancy that large farms do with these small gardens. For instance, I see no machinery in this picture. Are we really wanting to go back to the days where farming is done by hand?
Sure it’s good for the soul to get together and grow things but as a means to feed society it’s just not viable.
Do you really think a small group of farmers is ungovernable? Peasant farmers have been exploited for pretty much the entire history of humanity!
Ungovernable means civil disobedience, it means sabotage. It does mean building community, but if your community only wants to farm, remember to pay the king after the harvest.
This kind of labour intensive farming is actually orders of magnitude more efficient (on an acres of land farmed basis) than mechanized industrialized farming.
But you are not entirely wrong that “community gardening” is insufficient, but good luck convincing anyone to engage in serious civil disobedience etc. when there is no alternative support network that can feed them while doing so.
I can believe that but I think the more important metric is labour hours vs food produced. Less labour and more food means more time for other activities.
A support network for civil disobedience can never exist. The state would shut it down immediatly. And yet disobedience must occur if the system is to truly change.
This is where we find ourselves. Destroy flock cameras. Don’t get caught. Support Palestine Action. Don’t get caught. Use what little time is available to fight back. But most importantly, don’t get caught because no one else can afford to save you.
There are always people that have time to invest in low risk activities but can’t invest them in high risk ones, usually because of dependents they need to take care off.
A support network for civil disobedience can never exist. The state would shut it down immediatly. And yet disobedience must occur if the system is to truly change.
Civil disobedience literally can’t exist without a support network and there are plenty of examples where it has existed with the state doing little to nothing to prevent that. There are always ways to fly under the radar for such support networks.
Destroying flock cameras is not a bad idea, but it is largely inconsequential. Style over substance so to say.
Yeah having dependents does add another layer of difficulty. Get them involved lol
I think people can part-time disobedience. Of course having a support network would make things easier. Maybe I’m just having trouble imagining.
I do think destroying flock cameras is worthwile. We definitely need more style and I’d argue it’s quite substantial too. For every camera destroyed it drains the budget and limits how many more can be installed.
I took it to be about building community rather than literally working on raised beds
yeah, if you want a garden that has good yield, you need furrows not raised beds. my friend gordon had a small half acre farm/garden attached to his property (he was a horticulturist and that was his food field. the next half acre was his experimenting field).
also i just realized all my horticulture (soil science and farm) friends are either named gordon or toby. i’m starting to think there’s some nominative determinism there because all the gordons and tobies i know are horticulture people.
All the faces in here are… distorted
Now this I can get behind!
Then the cops break this up and the city has it torn up for not following the rules. And you know it wasnt very useful anyway sure a nice thing to do and to build community but far from revolutionary.
Honestly, the way you become ungovernable is the same way the government becomes unaccountable to the people.
Passive hostility. Slow roll everything. Throw a wrench in every system you can. Stop at all stop signs and railroad tracks, and wait 3 seconds to confirm all other traffic has stopped. Make every request in writing, using snail mail, then call every day (or multiple times a day) to see if they got your requests. Demand everything communication to you is done in the slowest and most expensive way for them possible. File FOIA requests for everything. Cop pulls you over, take a while to find your license and registration. Become sludge, become a quagmire. Make anything and everything the government does to you a huge use of their time and effort. Embrace your inner old man “get off my lawn” energy.
To add to this, you can generate lists of likely emails of CEOs and yell at them and get free stuff. ATT gave me 6 free months and a free phone. They actually have to have done some bullshit, though. But channel your inner Karen. It’s okay when you aim it at the C suite instead of the store manager.
Yep, you don’t incur the wrath of their violence, you just make governing you not worth the effort
Do all this while being unfailingly polite and friendly, and the cops won’t even see you as a problem. Especially if white.
That is Ted Kaczynski, known as the Unabomber, for those who don’t America.
Nah he is quite well known outside usa. There is a netflix show about him
That’s fair my bad, I missed the Netflix show
Paul Bettany played him. It was pretty good.
No way! I love him in Legion
Thanks!
“until the fbi bust in”
would never happen to me, my brother’s not a snitch.
if the roles were reversed, how many innocent people would you let your brother blow up?
for me it depends on the sibling lol. I have more patience with some than others.
Dude was extremely governable in his prison cell. They governed the living fuck outta him. They governed his brains out.
That’s why snitching is awful and you should guard yourself against it his brother is scum.
I’m not sure one needs to be a serial killer in order to rebel against government overreach.
I’d love to be a mathematical prodigy!
