• this_jury_is_hung@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Download iso

    Load iso onto usb.

    Insert usb into machine.

    Spam del and all f-keys on boot because for some reason there is no standard ‘enter bios’ key.

    Ensure usb boot is enabled and higher priority than internal disk.

    Restart.

    Follow simple installer guide.

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      1 month ago

      This is literally my point.

      I don’t know how to do a lot of these things and usually the guide doesn’t explain these points.

      If it’s labeled ‘beginners guide’ it should explain how to do all these extra steps

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        Linux Mint has a full install guide that goes into detail on every point with the click-through links. They are a real good source for people who haven’t done this before.

        My suggestion to people is to install Linux on a computer you don’t use every day (old laptop, etc) and during installation have it be the only OS (ie, not dual boot with Windows). After awhile when you feel more comfortable, install it on your main machine. This lets you learn at whatever pace you desire.

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          Thank you. I’ll take a look at this.

          And this is what I plan to do with my old gaming laptop. Do a trial run of Zorin OS, work out all the issues and then do install it on my new one and finally be rid of microslop

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          I understand it. My original point was that most guides don’t explain it.

          Also, the guide were responding to says ‘download iso’. If you google ‘ISO’ it does not come up with anything to do with Linux. Which proves my point that most guides are not helpful for beginners

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        It’s literally not even that complicated, I don’t know why the above commenter made it sound like that.

        Boot from any live distro USB, and most of them have an installer on the desktop. You just follow the instructions. The most complex part is when it asks you if you want to dual-boot or wipe your drive and replace Windows with Linux completely. Just back up your drives before trying anything.

        note on dual-booting:

        If you want to dual boot, it’ll need to create a new partition, but it can do that automatically. The only issue is if you already have the maximum number of partitions allowed (I think 4 typically) then you need to do some manual stuff which can get more technical, but otherwise it should all happen automatically. The only decision you need to make is dual-boot or single boot (single boot wipes the existing drive, removing Windows entirely).

        Everything else in that person’s comment basically just boils down to “create a live USB and then boot from it.”

        If you have a friend who gives you one, you don’t need to make it yourself. Otherwise the process is “Download .iso file → install it on the USB (use Ventoy or BalenaEtcher or something similar)” (note: this will wipe and reformat the USB, so use one you don’t need for anything else; preferably one that’s blank, otherwise back up your files first).

        As for booting from the live USB, they also made that sound too complicated. All you need to do usually is plug in the USB and the boot up or restart your computer. It should detect it automatically, and it’ll either boot from it or ask you whether to boot from it or your normal OS.

        If it doesn’t do either of those things (which it usually will) then you need to figure out which key to press on boot up to take you to the screen where you can tell it to do so manually. That’s usually either Esc, F2, F6, or maybe Del. It depends on the computer manufacturer, just do a web search for “such-and-such computer safe mode boot key” or BIOS key or UEFI key or whatever. But the point is that probably won’t be necessary 9 times out of 10.

        TL;DR, just boot from a live USB and follow the automated installer which probably has an icon on the desktop. It’s really not that complicated. There’s no owl.

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        1 month ago

        There’s no owl. It really is that dead simple. This isn’t windows where everything is super complicated, unintuitive, and hard to do.

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          Oh really. The fuck is domain, why do I need two passwords, fuck’s root and why the heck does it ask for my name.

          And first of all why the heck did my pc boot into linux to install linux.

          For someone used to windows, linux is weird af with it’s installer. Same other way around. I, being a bit more tech savvy, for example managed to almost force myself into using linux because I tried to keep windows like partitions…and, after fidging around in installer format tools, managed to do it.

          Windows did not like it when I installed it back and I had to reformat because linux doesn’t care what format (or whatever the BTRFS, FAT etc are called) disk is in, or was it disks table? But oh boy does Windows installer care xD

          For non tech savvy folk, last used installer is better xD

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            Widows also asks all those questions though …

            What did you expect it to boot into? MacOS?

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              1 month ago

              Windows doesn’t ask for domain, for example, last I checked. Same goes for first name and last name. Or differentiating between user and admin by default. At least in 10, didn’t have chance to install 11 yet.