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floofloof@lemmy.ca to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 months ago

GrapheneOS duress PIN could land a man in prison

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GrapheneOS duress PIN could land a man in prison

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floofloof@lemmy.ca to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 months ago
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A US man is being prosecuted after allegedly using a GrapheneOS duress PIN to wipe his Pixel during a border search.
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    Name one thing that can’t land you in prison in the US. I’ll wait.

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      • arin@lemmy.worldBanned
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        Even convicted pedo can avoid prison https://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case

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        You don’t even need that first part. Being rich makes it 10x harder for you to be prosecuted.

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      For profit slave labor prisons are very lucrative I hear

    • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
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      Being white

    • Trioxin@lemmygrad.ml
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      Everything, as long as you’re the president and say it was an “official act”…

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    Supreme court has ruled that warrantless phone search at the border is bogus, but theyre too shitpantsed to stick with it

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      Not if you live within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit. The court “ruled that a lower standard applies to manual searches, allowing the government to conduct extraordinarily invasive electronic device searches without any suspicion of wrongdoing, simply because the border officer chooses to search by hand rather than with a forensic tool.”

      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/07/fourth-circuit-says-border-agents-can-search-your-phone-hand-no-suspicion-required

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    Seems like what’s needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn’t have any info you don’t want others to see, without actually deleting anything.

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      I had this feature on a Xiaomi phone that i had a few years ago. I could even set up the fingerprint reader to open a different profile depending on which finger i used.

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        Sounds awesome.

    • OrganicMustard@lemmy.world
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      You can already have multiple independent users in graphene (maybe in stock android too idk). You have to switch them before the possible search though.

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    You have to carry a piece of paper in your wallet that contains a PIN. The piece of paper contains no further information, just a PIN. You decline to answer any questions regarding this piece of paper or your phone’s PIN.

    This might not be a good idea, depending on your jurisdiction.

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      You can have a business card with a "phone"number on it. (Your pin can be any part of that number it is only you who needs to know where to start reading the code). You don’t need to have a sus number only piece of paper. :)

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        The point is that the cops would find and enter the pin.

        It’s the wipe pin.

        They wiped it, not you.

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    this is what peak democracy™ looks like, dont be fooled

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    If the phone’s security prevents them from accessing information, then they have no information. How can they prove there was any information on it to begin with?

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      They just accuse you of withholding evidence. Yay for freedom of speech.

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        @SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml the courts already decided that it was okay to jail people for literal years for not providing a password: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rawls

        and there are more:

        • United States v. Fricosu
        • United States v. Doe (2012)
        • United States v. Kirschner
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          Jfc. Next you’ll be jailed for not having a phone

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            in spain, you’re automatically added to a watch list if you publicly use a pixel because its capable of running graphene. lol

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              That’s fucking wild.

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                And old.

                This has been a thing for decades but too few noticed and many more will stay unaware unless it bites them.

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    BS. It’s a claim from last year and not only in Spain, that criminals often use encrypted phomes (logical), among others, Graphene OS, but also iOS and Android. Not that all who use encrypted devices (or message apps) are criminals, which due the amount of these devices result absurd to say. As often, periodists write and share half understood news. In Spain as also in the rest of the EU, phones and messages of individuals can only be intercepted by the police with a court order in a criminal investigation, not globaly like in the US. There may be cases when an individual under criminal investigation deletes incriminating messages, which can be punished for concealment of evidences.

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    • floofloof@lemmy.caOP
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      What a coincidence that it was the guy protesting the police who was also suspected of possessing such materials. If it turns out they had real independent grounds to suspect he had such images, I’ll change this view, but for now I assume that’s the cops’ standard line to shut down people’s questions. Just say they thought the political target had CSAM, and immediately people see him differently, plus the police can accuse anyone who challenges their actions of supporting pedophiles.

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      They implied that based on his use of grapheneOS/erasure of the device. In reality he is a Stop Cop City activist. The fascists just want to associate good privacy and security practices with criminality and depravity.

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      Sounds like bs without any definitive proof

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      How do you know if phone got erased?

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