I’ll believe it when I see it. I have been hearing this since 2022 and they’re unleashing more and more ballistic missiles on Kyiv every week
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I’m still seeing more and more ballistic missiles damaging Kyiv, still see Russia trying to capture cities and regions in the Donbas.
Yes, the economy is bad, but I don’t see the war ending soon because of it. People in rural Russia will just be worse off than they already are…
The war will probably not end until Russia has collapsed or Putin is removed.
Russia is absolutely collapsing now, but it takes time for the biggest country in the world and with 140 million people to collapse entirely.
How long we do not know, but despite Russia has attacked Kyiv heavily 2 times within a week, is not a sign in any way that they are winning or even standing their ground. Ukraine now has 3 times the attacks into Russia compared to what Russia is sending the other way.
And we are only 12 days into the 40 days and 40 nights campaign Zelenskyj announced! And the Flamingo missile is now evidently VERY real!
It was predicted for more than 2 years, and it’s happening now.
The Russian economy is collapsing, The Russian wealth fund is empty, and Russia has been selling gold reserves to prop up the economy, oil exports are dwindling, and they have to import refined oil products now at inflated prices.
The Russian infrastructure is collapsing too, and farmers can’t get the harvest done, because fuel is either not available or too expensive so it will cost more to harvest than to let the crops rot in the field.The fact that you are not seeing it, is not because it isn’t happening.
I have no idea why so many upvote you not knowing what’s going on.Our sanctions and the self-sanctioning by companies themselves are draining Russia’s economy and thus draining the Kremlin’s war machine.
Ursula von der Leyen, 2022
This sounds like more of the same.
WTF? Sanctions have absolutely been part of reaching the point we’re at now.
Other comments by you have been misguided, but this is way way out there.Yeah no shit Sherlock. The point is that many people have claimed it was close for years and this is just more of the same.
There is nothing “misguided” about my comment. You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. You don’t hold the truth.
Facts are not a matter of opinion.
Early in the war, the broad consensus was that the new sanctions would devastate the Russian economy. By some metrics, though, Russia’s economy has proved resilient to date.
From the US government
Following Russia’s full-fledged invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Western countries imposed unprecedented economic sanctions. Yet there is limited evidence that these measures have inflicted substantial economic pain on Russia, as the recent slowdown has largely reflected factors unrelated to sanctions.
From the ESCP geopolitics institute
And you still haven’t answered my question. What facts? Just your shitty misinformed opinion.
What facts exactly?
Ursula von der Leyen, 2022
Are you somehow implying that she was wrong?
What she said would happen is exactly what happened.
What is the point of the sanctions?
The war hasn’t ended, has it?
What is the point of the sanctions?
Exactly what Von der Leyen said?
Weaken Russia’s economy.
That means less money for foreign supplies, and machinery, means fewer missiles, fewer shells, fewer tanks.
The war hasn’t ended, has it?
No, but maybe ask Ukrainians if they’d rather there be no sanctions and more missiles in their cities.
But you know all that, you’re just arguing in bad faith.
And why would they want to weaken the economy? Come on you can do better than that. Use your other brain cell.
And who said they shouldn’t do sanctions? Please quote me on that. And you have the nerve to tell me I’m the one arguing in bad faith? F off
And why would they want to weaken the economy? Come on you can do better than that. Use your other brain cell.
it’s literally in my comment above, read.
And who said they shouldn’t do sanctions? Please quote me on that.
Why the fuck should I quote you on that? I never said you said that.
What you did do is imply that it didn’t impact Russia’s war making capabilities, and I told you that you can go ask Ukrainians about that.
And you have the nerve to tell me I’m the one arguing in bad faith? F off
yes you are.
“Just asking questions” that you know the answers to. You fuck off
It’s an enormous country with an abundance of natural resources. It was always going to take a fair amount of time before they got desperate. Now they are, and it’s not going well, hence the endless missile and drone barrage.
They lost their momentum on the ground a while back, and now they’re reduced to holding what they can and hope they can break the Ukrainian morale with civilian casualties. There’s nothing new there. They’re using the same tactics they used in Chechnya all over again. The only difference is the weaponry used.
You don’t have to tell me, tell everyone who made the claim
I live about an hour from the Russian border. I know people on the other side. I can read Russian well enough to follow their news since we’re probably fairly high up on the list of targets if this goes really wrong. Not that that would end well for Russia, but they’re not exactly behaving rationally atm.
I know what it really looks like inside Russia. Can you claim the same, or do you just like to spread misinformation?
What the F are you talking about you dumbass? I am AGREEING WITH YOU
You are, huh? Where?
You didn’t answer my question.
It happens slowly, then all at once
Absolutely, Putin has used extreme measures of kicking the can down the road, so it has been happening more slowly than expected. But now Putin and Russia are out of tricks, and things seems to be accelerating a lot now.
Let’s hope it also stops the war, but I think it will just make things more awful for poor people in Siberia who are already living under shitty circumstances
Obviously this war is already making things more shitty for all Russians. 2 million people in Crimea in panic because it’s hard to get out without fuel. No electricity, no fuel, no Internet, and food is rationed.
The fuel shortage is now a problem for all regions of Russia, and fuel is rationed by federal decree.
Siberia has the advantage that Ukraine has very few drones with long enough range to hit them. But yes most of the eastern Russian federation depend on the west economically and probably also for food. But many Russians in those eastern parts have already moved back west, resulting in for instance mining cities that are empty. Some are populated with Chinese and North Korean workers, to continue mining, because the Russians are moving away.deleted by creator
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Part of the reason this happens is these changes take a lot longer than anyone would really like.
But, there are widespread fuel shortages in Russia, most of the country is facing some type of rationing, and that’s something that hasn’t happened before.
they’re unleashing more and more ballistic missiles on Kyiv every week
They don’t though. They’re still doing it, but they’re not doing it more, and that’s not for the lack of trying.
Maybe check your facts in the links I have provided to others already: https://www.csis.org/programs/futures-lab/projects/russian-firepower-strike-tracker-analyzing-missile-attacks-ukraine
There have definitely been much more ballistic missile attacks lately
We’ve been hearing the same idiots saying “sanctions didn’t work immediately therefore they don’t work” since 2022. Those of us with higher than room temperature IQs realised that Russia planned for the war and sanctions to the tune of a $600 billion savings fund.
I still find it hilarious that Russia left about half of this in hostile countries that confiscated it immediately. Imagine Russia had that extra cash? They probably would have had a chance of winning this war without that blunder.
I never said that sanctions don’t work to hurt a country’s economy. That part is evident.
However, very few wars have been ended by sanctions alone. So in that sense, no, they do not work anywhere near as well as everyone thinks they do.
You would have a point if it was sanctions alone that Russia was facing.
It is fortunate in this case that Russia is also up against a well motivated Ukrainian army whose attacks have been increasing in sophistication as the war has progressed. Russia on the other hand has been on the back foot recently, they have appeared unable to adjust to Ukraine’s drone strikes on logistics behind the front lines and have had a net loss in square km gained the last 4 months in a row.
I wouldn’t say the Russian side is doing well, I completely agree with all of that.
But if someone has “hit their limits” like the article claims it means they can’t go on anymore. The fact that they can still ramp up attacks and aren’t losing ground massively means that hasn’t happened yet.
The war is at an impasse right now and I don’t think the next few months of the war are going to be very pretty…
But if someone has “hit their limits” like the article claims it means they can’t go on anymore.
When somebody “hits their limit” that means they are stagnating and not falling or collapsing. It is also important to be clear that this is about the economy.
If the Russian war economy would not be able to increase overall production(not necessarily production of specific weapons, but overall), you would expect them to slow down their advance and take higher losses, as the soldiers lack weapons and whatever to make that happen. We also we see fewer air attacks against Ukraine.
That seems to be the case. Russian personal casulties are generally pretty high and they are not taking a lot of land. At the same time Shahed attacks are 30% down in June compared to May.
Big losses would happen, if Russias economy collapses and only some time after that. That might be the case given the current fuel situation in the country.
It is also important to be clear that this is about the economy.
Correction: the war economy. Important distinction because it is a specific type economy that has switched to mainly sustain a war at the cost of other expenses, and not a normal economy. If the war economy reaches its limits, so does the war effort.
Shahed attacks are 30% down in June compared to May.
Mostly because they have been proven ineffective, since Ukraine is shooting almost all of them down. It doesn’t prove anything about the economy.
Again, I’m not convinced Russia will soon be on its last leg, I want to be hopeful, but I’m not anymore at the moment.
Seeing is believing…
First half of your sentence yes, second half of your sentence no. There are ebbs and flows of numbers of missiles launched, but compared to earlier in the war I’m pretty sure Russia is launching significantly fewer now, especially if you consider the destructive power of each missile used
Been hearing this longer than I’ve heard that Trump’s crimes are catching up to him
Some blog post from some “think tank”
This is a nothing burger
