Numerous Tesla owners say they’ve been trapped inside their EVs after they lost power.::Numerous Tesla owners say they have been trapped inside their EVs after they lost power.Teslas come with manual door releases, but they can be hard to find
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Musk has been disabling the power door locks of his political enemies.
We’re deleting ‘doors’ as a feature. They just don’t make sense.
— Melontusk
‘Doors’ feature will only be available as a subscription service*
- your subscription can be revoked at any moment if you’re mean to Melon on Xitter
Doors are bloat, why would you need them when you got windows?
I am flabbergasted about how little some people know about cars.
In a discussion about a potentially mandatory hardware cutoff button for EVs after the accident in China:
- But that’s just an electric button! What is a button good for if the electronics fail?
Do you know what a hardware cutoff does?
- Could I press it accidentally?
Such button would be mounted somewhere you can see and easily reach but normally don’t have hands there, like the dashboard.
- What if I’m going 80 mph on a highway and the cutoff somehow activates?
Did you realize that you don’t actually stop dead when the motor is disconnected? You will start coasting, gradually slowing down (unless it’s downhill) and come to a halt in about a minute.
However, the software (or hardware, if the manufacturer is actually safety aware) will “notice” the cutoff and turn on brake lights (& hazards if they are separate), and inform you that you need to pull the button back up to reconnect the contacts. If you realize your mistake immediately, you can revert it in less time than it takes beginners to shift gears on some old cars (which is also a time when the motor is not engaged).- But how do I stop a rogue car if the button actually does not do it by itself?
Slamming the brakes all the way should mechanically engage the brake pads regardless of whether the electronics works. If not, the car is not road legal.
- Cars did not use to have this!
Do you know what the ignition key does? It physically prevents the motor from firing any further if it is pulled.
Stop complaining about mechanical overrides to electronic systems! Any software engineer will tell you that they’ll happily be able to pull the plug if their computer tries to kill them!
And aircraft have manual overrides. Moving the yoke will disconnect the autopilot, circuit breakers can be pulled to disconnect systems, landing gear can drop via gravity, etc.
The manual door release can be tricky to find unless you’ve combed through your car’s owner’s manual.
Absolute horseshit. Practically every person who gets out of my car for the first time goes for the manual handle. I have to make a point to tell them to use the button.
came here to say this exact thing. I’m paranoid new people will pull the manual exit over the button, becauseit can potentially damage the frame.(which is dumb for other reasons).
What? Do you mean that there’s a button to open the door in Teslas? Wasn’t that standardized? And it is hard to find? They must be retarded.
I have to make a point to tell them to use the button.
So the design is flawed. 20 year old cars can drop the window slightly when the door is opened, why can’t a semi-self-driving car do it?
20 year old cars can drop the window slightly when the door is opened
sigh
It does. If there is no power or somebody swings the door open super fast it can damage/break the window. Generally it’s fine.
Not even a Tesla or Elon guy but wow people just really enjoy shitting on these cars lol. That 20 year old car that drops the window doesn’t drop it when the battery is dead either. Flawed design man, Teslas are ass, Elon is Satan 🤷♂️
Not when the battery is dead dipshit
These same people drive into lakes because the GPS said so.
You’re totally right.
There is a manual door handle, which is not supposed to be used.
Most guests in my car naturally tend to go for the manual handle instead of the button, when not instructed.
So the people who claim to be locked are either looking for money or are total dumbfucks.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_au/GUID-7A32EC01-A17E-42CC-A15B-2E0A39FD07AB.html
Really doesn’t look that hard to find… and who the fuck is getting into any car without knowing how to open it in case of an emergency lol.
Pretty stupid that there’s only a manual open for the front doors though, at least on the model 3.
and who the fuck is getting into any car without knowing how to open it in case of an emergency lol.
I think most people assume car doors all operate reasonably similarly. I don’t necessarily specifically check “how to open the door if I need to” when getting into a rental, an Uber, or a friend’s new car.
You’re getting into a car with an electronic door button, you probably shouldn’t assume it’s the same as every other car door.
Why would you assume pulling up on the inner part of the door is easy to find? It looks dumb as fuck and I would not think to try pulling that part
I can’t believe there isn’t a manual unlock for the back doors. They shouldn’t be road legal to lack that safety feature.
I have never once in my life asked the driver of a vehicle how to open a door in case of emergency, because you should just be able to use the handle like any other fucking door.
What kind of absolute dipshit asks every driver they ride with where the hidden emergency door releases are on their car? That’s never been a thing. Never. Because no one would imagine a door would be so poorly designed.
Counter argument, what kind of absolute dipshit gets into a car with a fucking electronic door button and doesn’t look for a manual alternative?
Nobody’s saying Tesla doors are fucking well designed, but you would have to he an absolute fucking brick of a human being to get “trapped” in one.
They could have at least put a label or symbol on it. I can totally understand if someone was looking for the emergency door handle and didn’t see it because it blends in. If the normal handle is marked it’s not unreasonable to presume the emergency handle would be too.
I was riding in the front of my old boss’ model 3 and immediately just used the emergency unlock rather than the button. He said he didn’t even know about that.
It definitely seemed like a pretty intuitive location.
People… There are manual door handles right where you expect them to be. Why isn’t this in the title hmmmmmmm?
You know why
Teslas come with manual door releases, but they can be hard to find
This is misleading. The door releases are extremely hidden, and seem to be specifically designed to not be found by anyone who has not received special training to find and use them. Also, they are not the same on every model, and are sometimes not even the same on all versions of the same model.
Some releases are hidden inside of door panel molding, others are hidden inside speaker grills, some are hidden under floor mats and even then must be pulled a specific direction to function.
Tesla seems to be going out of their way to kill people by trapping them. It’s fucking bizarre.
I’ve had a lot more people accidentally open the door with the manual override than the normal door release because it’s a lot more obvious than the normal door release. There are a ton of reasons to criticize Tesla, this is not one of them IMO. This article reads like a lot of other anti-EV “news” articles.
Just when I start to think there’s alot of great information in the posts and comments on Lemmy, I read some like this.
Yep I thought the same after seeing 3 Tesla bashing posts one after the other in my feed. I don’t care for the brand but I also don’t want to hear about every single defect with them in individual posts.
I think the ‘technology’ topic is too broad and allows for this sort of shit slinging to happen too easily.
I would argue that because reddit technology was anti-Tesla, they carried that over to lemmy as well.
Most people working in technology, even software engineers, will appreciate being able to stop or exit a 1-ton machine mechanically. Heck, I don’t even trust my own code and it’s mostly fun shit like this. However, this post has reached the All feed on many instances, which I guess the less knowledgeable people are coming from… it’s been the same on Reddit last year (see my other comment)
Yea … hopefully user-defined multi communities come around and we can start to be a bit more organised about stuff here while also more easily able to splinter off into separate communities with different focuses.
It’s been the same on Reddit when arguing about emergency motor cutoff last year, see my other comment…
It’s a feature, not a bug. This way you can admire interior even more. /s
That’s gotta suck.
Clickbait article. The manual door releases are impossible to miss. Nearly everyone who has ridden in my car has tried to use the manual release first. I have to stop them and explain how to use the electronic release.
Teslas have problems but the door handles aren’t one of them.
Are lots having this problem or just enough for this article?
It’s sort of amazing, these cars meet the safety regulations of the countries they are sold in. Or is it a case that no one has been this dumb before and they haven’t had to regulate for it?
Lots of cars have electronic door releases, and they all have manual handles as well. Tesla’s are not difficult to find or use.
