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They are taking ground step by step. We must push back.
You push back by switching to PC (preferrably Linux) and never giving Sony a single cent ever again
…where you can buy physical media! And resell your games!
…where you can pirate every single one of Sony’s games. And emulate not ported ones. Pirated too, of course. Pirate and seed even if you have no intention of playing.
If everyone keeps bragging about piracy devs will gravitate to consoles where it’s harder
No more offensive than two streaming companies offering the movie “It Part I” on one companies subscription and “It Part II” on another’s. They’re just blatantly pissing in our face from above and yelling “Fuck You!” out in the open now.
It’s not the physical media that makes this suck. It’s the fact that there are no protections in place for ordinary customers to prevent them from being abused like this.
Virtual digital media is just fine. The problem is that it’s all DRM-wrapped garbageware that is “licensed” not owned. It ought to be fucking illegal to sell this kind of shit.
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Isn’t this one of the biggest things that tanked Xbox’s series x announcement? Like, they changed their minds but still lost good will and customers?
I haven’t bought physical media in years. I haven’t lost any games by buying digital only. That said, there is something concerning about the ability of companies to take away what you have already paid for, or retire it from a platform.
Once sold, you should have to be able to sell it back - something like “we’re offering you $0.50 to sell your copy of RandomGame2008 you haven’t played in 18 years”. I bet you a bunch of people would agree to that if it was credited to a wallet toward new games. I have a backlog of games I would sell that I bought… on sale… bought never ended up playing.
- I was a happy Playstation user through every generation, starting with the first one
- I got a Playstation 5 1-2 years after its launch
- After being a Linux user for years, I decided I could also try Linux gaming so I bought a used LCD Steam Deck early 2025
- My Playstation 5 started gathering dust and was only used for demanding racing games like Gran Turismo 7 or Nba Streaming
- Saw the Steam Machine announcement and started having a dilemna. Decided I’d look at its price before making a decision to fully switch to Linux gaming
- Saw the Steam Machine US price and decided I’d get it only if it’s less than CHF 1000.- in my country
- Saw the Playstation disc removal and decided that no matter what, I ain’t getting another Playstation.
Thank you Sony for making my decision easier! I love your games and would probably buy some on PC if I could know for sure that they wouldn’t be taken away.
I ain’t selling the Playstation 5 as I’ll probably buy a few more exclusives (on disc) for it, but it’ll probably keep gathering dust and being mostly used as an Nba league pass streaming machine.
Now the removal of physical discs ain’t really the problem, but if you combine this with shady practices from Sony, it’ll be GOG (and Steam when not available) all the way for me.
That was the last thing consoles had going for them. The only thing that will keep the next gen from flopping is inertia and maybe EXTREMELY aggressive pricing.
Sony can’t be trusted with digital content: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Sony’s_attempted_removal_of_“purchased”_content They can’t be trusted to keep providing support for digital content storefronts https://gameinformer.com/2021/03/22/ps3-ps-vita-and-psp-stores-are-closing-permanently-this-year-according-to-new-report And they can’t be trusted te keep offering features they announced https://consumerrights.wiki/w/PlayStation_3_Removal_of_OtherOS_with_System_Update_3.21
So, yeah, why would I buy a box with built in obsolescence from a company who has pressed the “make obsolete” button multiple times? If I’m buying downloadable games I’ll do so on a platform that I can run in any machine I want to, and that will keep supporting things I bought for decades to come.
I’m one of the indifferent ones and I would actually echo the companies in “no one buys physical media anymore and the stats prove it”.
Now that doesn’t mean it’s right. I’m also there I love used game shops and I still will once in a while buy a game for my Xbox series x.
That said, for decades now PC games have been dl through steam. People very much do not buy physical games. The only difference is this is a walled ecosystem in PS (or MS as I’m sure they will follow suite if they survive the console wars). Nintendo?
So I guess what I’m saying is although I get the hatred, where have all you fuckers been while physical media has pretty much disappeared everywhere? Or is the truth that you are all a vocal minority screaming into a hurricane?
I’m not looking to stir up shit. I honestly want to know. I would probably still buy an Xbox if it’s cheap and game pass is around and no physical media. I can always go back to PC gaming if I want. I still have the choice. To complain about a company business decision though if they really believe it’s where the market is going (and I think I agree) then good on them. Just don’t buy a PS6?
I agree. Haven’t got a physical game in 20 years. But again i don’t play console.
Console gamers like their physical media. You own it. You can collect it, you can sell it.
Yeah and this is where the rub is I guess. On a PC you can pirate. On a PC you can easily mod. There’s a level of freedom that is not gated like on a console.
Historically, consoles have not been cost prohibitive so they’re more attractive.
“Wait, I can play God of War and I don’t have to pay $1500 for a PC?” (Let’s ignore the truth you can build a computer for much cheaper to play games many people don’t go that far)
So I’m with you, this is console gamers. Which goes back to my point this is PS (and will be MS and Nintendo soon enough) and industry is going to the death of physical media this is the sad reality. If they want to do that to save costs and have the added benefit to further control their gated ecosystem good on them. You always can go to PC.
I’ve been a console gamer almost exclusively for 15+ years now (aside from a handful of steam games I can run on a low spec old laptop). Are console gamers really this lazy + entitled?
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If console games get more expensive because of this, PC games will follow.
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When console games went to €70 all PC games miraculously remained at €60—
Oh, wait, no. That didn’t happen.
And sure, that’s not most games. There are a lot of indies which are far more reasonably priced. Either way, the €60 price ceiling previously in place has moved up, making it easier for AA and indie games to move up in price as well.
“Just don’t buy those games!” Sure, whatever man. All I’m saying is that there is some influence between the two.
Aha!
IGN waits 48 hrs to have an opinion, and they go with offensive.
No, that’s not hard enough, you fucking shills.
Its criminal. It subverts the entire concept of personal property rights. It is so offensive that to let it stand would be an ongoing affront to quite literally human rights.
If you allow a paradigm to exist, in an increasingly digital world and economy, that your digital goods can be evaporated, at whim, by the seller, after you purchased them, with no refund?
You get cyberpunk dystopia from this. You turn corporations formally into more powerful entities than most states.
The only reason you fucking morons describe this as baffling is because you are their second order PR agency. You’re idiots, its been obvious this was the plan for over a decade… you cannot possibly be surprised by this without being corporate cucks.
You fucking cunts dare to angle yourselves as sharing the same concerns as SKG, as Ross Scott?
Where the fuck were you a decade ago when Ross started talking about this? You’re a goddamned media company, you could have signal boosted him this whole fucking time… or even just mentioned it, maybe?
Fuck you Luke, you duplicitous bootlicking hack.
Sony has a shitty history of anti-consumer behaviours, and no one should buy anything from them, but not selling something isn’t a crime; it’s not even illegal.
