I want a coffee with a short skirt and a loooooooooooooooong jacket.
I do actually want a coffee that uses a machete to cut through red tape.
Coffee should taste good. Why hate on coffee that tastes good? It’s not even hard to find.
this. it’s not that hard to make a coffee that is both strong and tastes good.
Right! And fairly cheaply (less so than a couple years ago, but still)
In my opinion, the best coffee isn’t some hipster “cherry” tasting coffee, but made by a skillful barista in Italy, using classic coffee.
If you like this “third wave” coffee, good for you! But the pure velvet enveloped sledgehammer that pure coffee might be has no equivalent for me.
In my opinion, the best coffee isn’t some hipster “cherry” tasting coffee, but made by a skillful barista in Italy, using classic coffee.
The “cherry” tasting coffee is also just “classic coffee”. It’s just different beans that have a different flavor profile. It’s not like actual cherry flavoring.
Usually the “notes of” doesn’t mean added flavorings, it’s just a taste profile similar to describing wines or perfumes.
Apparently a trained palette can distinguish different notes, but that requires trying each one in isolation which is difficult for the average person to do.
For me I can only really identify bitterness, acidity, body, and strength. That’s all a casual drinker really needs in order to describe what they like.
- The bitterness is self-explanatory, and depends on the beans, how they’re roasted, how they’re brewed, etc.
- The acidity is the brightness that you can taste in something like a light roast. Try it side-by-side with a dark roast to taste the difference.
- Body is the thickness of the mouthfeel. The best way to describe it is like drinking whole milk vs. skim milk. Light roasts usually have a lighter body, like water. Dark roasts have a heavier body, not quite like whole milk but maybe skim.
- And strength is self-explanatory. Light roasts are technically stronger because some of the caffeine breaks down when heated (green coffee, sometimes called golden coffee, is the strongest because it isn’t roasted), but I find the difference is negligible. The main factors for determining strength seems to be how it’s ground and how it’s brewed.
- The finer it’s ground, the more surface area so the stronger the infusion, that’s why espressos and turkish coffee are so strong (also because they might blend some robustica in with their arabica, which makes it more bitter but also has more caffeine)
- Also higher grounds::water ratios means there’s more caffeine, but too high and it gets undrinkably bitter with an extremely thick body (sometimes called “motor oil” for this reason)
That all being said, some roasters do add artificial flavor directly to their beans, but usually those are called “flavored,” not “notes of”/“hints of”.
And yeah, skip me with those flavored syrups. If I want something fancy I’ll add real cocoa or some herbs or something, but that’s a rare inkling for me and those syrups are just kinda gross.
Some coffee beans with no additives whatsoever can be described like this post did. I don’t like additives or other weird coffee things. Beans, and grinder, and a french press is all you need
That’s sure is a very good start!
You are… confusing. First you claim I like too much crap in my coffee, next you imply it’s not enough? I like my coffee plain and simple. The closest you can get to just the flavor of a well roasted bean is what I want. I’ve always had great results with freshly ground beans and a french press. Granted, some coffee shops make better coffee than I do at home, but I couldn’t tell you the first thing about why.
Sorry if you took it as a criticism, I just wanted to share about coffee!
They are discussing the flavors of the beans.
Black as midnight, on a moonless night.
I’ll take that cocoa and cherry one then, if you’re not having it.
Caffeine content probably the same. I’ll take the one that doesn’t taste like chalky dirt.
I don’t understand… can it not do that while also tasting good? Is that not exactly what good coffee is supposed to be?
Of course it can, but then we wouldn’t have a shitpost.
People who drink mud for tough guy points are cringe.
Hard disagree. I am a weak eepy little boy and I need a strong, girthy kick in the ass to start my day. Anything less won’t do
ITT: Folks who don’t know a light roast has more caffeine than dark, and muddier coffee does not equate to more caffeine.
Both can be true
Caffeine is very slightly negatively correlated with darkness of the roast. Dark roasts tend to have less caffeine than light roasts.
Also, drip/pourover/percolator/press coffee tends to have more caffeine per serving than espresso-based drinks. The longer steep time extracts more of the caffeine, and serving sizes tend to just be so much larger to overcome the higher caffeine per unit volume of espresso.
So in reality, the lighter pourover coffee where you have the roaster or barista talking about tasting notes tends to be higher caffeine than the dark, densely brewed bitter stuff.
Basically this, although from what I remember the caffeine difference between light and dark roast is only about 2%.
It is also worth noting that for most people (due to the standard western diet), their daily coffee is one of the few appreciable sources of polyphenols they’re likely to get, and lighter roasts are a better source of that as well.
Aaaand if that weren’t enough, dairy cancels out the health benefits of coffee by reducing bioavailability.
My understanding is that dark roast is just as strong or even stronger by weight, but the longer roast makes it lighter for the same volume. Since people tend to use scoops to measure out their coffee the lighter blends end up stronger.
But if you measure by weight instead, that’s no longer the case.
I like my coffee like I like my women. Cold and bitter.
I like my coffee like I like my women: completely devoid of STDs.
Necrophilia moment
I meant emotionally cold, but your line is funnier.
So you want it to be whiskey?
Nah, just Irish.
For context I’m the “at the fourth or fifth energy drink I can start to feel it” type, and their Trioxin coffee beans made me twitch after a pint
you can buy 200mg caffeine caps for that
thats called meth
Is it so bad to have both?
I mean plenty of caffeine AND a good flavor without .25 lbs of sugar and 50% half and half is pretty nice…
