Yes im aware that my search engine choice is not the best option.

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    As others have said, remove all proton stuff that you can. You are just replacing one centralized service with another. Google started out good too and look where we are now. Never put too many eggs in one basket.

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      My answer to this is to use a custom domain with an email aliasing service.

      I’ve gone through about half of the 400 accounts in my password manager and moved them over. I’ll migrate the rest over the next week or so.

      So, I’m switching from Gmail to Proton for now, but if Proton starts to get worse or Tuta catches up on functionality or there’s a better provider that emerges or I decide to try to self-host, it’s one easy change at the alias provider to redirect all of my mail to a new email provider.

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    You got great choices, actually. I’d only recommend to be as little dependent on multiple fronts on one company. So I’d change a few of Proton to something else. As long as Proton doesn’t replace their CEO with an explicitly antifascist one, I don’t know if they re a good spot.

    Depending on how private communications must be, Threema might be better than Signal.

    If you don’t need to synchronise with others and your threat model is not physical attacks/theft, then agendas can be just on paper. Same for the calendar.


    As for distro…

    Mint is great (and honestly what I’d rec for people brand new to Linux). If you want to harden privacy/security more though, the following Linux distros might be better:

    • Fedora (any of them). It’s an international upstream distro from Red Hat (American company, parent company is IBM). In other words, it’s developed by the community, which is gathered in the Fedora Project. Their headquarters is in NC, USA. Red Hat then uses the community distro to make their own distro, and in return, finances Fedora. Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, uses it. If he trusts it, I trust it.
    • OpenSUSE Tumbleweed -, developed by the OpenSUSE community, backed by OpenSUSE from Germany. Pretty good all-arounder.
    • Arch Linux, developed internationally, but most devs are spread across Europe. Has an extensive wiki (that also is good for other distros), though it’s not exactly “plug and play” and I’d rec it only if you know what you’re doing.
    • Debian is another option if privacy is less of a concern for you, than it being FOSS. It’s one of the most FOSS distros out there, and also highly independent and international.

    I assume you want to use your distro as daily driver, and that your threat model isn’t too severe. So the above ones should suffice.

    If the threat model calls for it, or you’re willing to sacrifice some usability for slightly more security, you could try QubesOS (arguably one of the most secure distros since it sandboxes everything as if they were a separate computer). Tails is another alternative, that’s on a USB and forgets itself after usage.


    For search engines…

    … go for Qwant (French) or Ecosia (German). Both are European-owned and are busy constructing their own indexes (currently they still use Bing and Google). There’s Mojeek (UK-based) which is independent.

    I don’t know how to block specific sites from popping up on them though, since I notice a certain trillionnaire’s personal ““wiki”” pops up a LOT. Probably he’s cheating and search bumping to spread his desinformation. It should be blocked.

    Presearch also exists, which is decentralised and uses its own indexes. If you want OSS, there’s SearXNG and YaCy which have metasearch options. Be careful in which instance you pick, though.

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      Arch Linux

      You can break anything quite easily on arch if you don’t know what you’re doing, including security.

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        Lol very true, Ive been using Mint for maybe 7 years now, Ive tried Arch 3 times or more, broke evey single time ive used it. And that’s with me not doing anything out of the ordinary. (No hate to Arch btw, I just can’t figure it out)

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      Network effect is the biggest problem for messaging services, and so I would still push for Signal over the alternatives that are technically better. This guide seems like it is focussed on users who are new to the space

      I agree with the Linux recommendation, but I’d offer CachyOS over pure Arch for newcomers. The limine bootloader gives a lot of peace of mind, since you can tell the user “if you get a bad update, reboot and pick an older option on the first screen”.

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      Adding my personal notes on search engines here for anyone’s interest. I personally use Qwant on Desktop and DuckDuckGo on mobile. I like Qwant because they are at least working on their own index and are EU-based. On the other hand, DuckDuckGo is faster and has a more comprehensive privacy policy. I’m really trying to use Mojeek on mobile but the search results are much worse than DuckDuckGo and Qwant in my repeated experience.

      Qwant DuckDuckGo Mojeek xPrivo Kagi
      IP collection Yes No No No temporary
      Hosting FRA USA UK EU USA
      Index ~40% own index + ~60% Bing 100% Bing Own Own Own
      Direct monthly cost 0 0 0 4-7€ 5€
      Passing data to third parties Search data and IP go to Microsoft separately No No No No
      Quality (subjective) +++ +++ + ++ ?
      AI summary / chat unclear optional no optional ?
      Speed + ++ +++ ++ ?
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      SecureBlue also looks decent and brings some of the security hardening used in GrapheneOS

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      Ecosystems which are easy to use are great for users and the reason why Google has a monopoly. If proton is a decent privacy centered alternative then more power to them.

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    For passwords, you can use the same KeepassXC database on multiple devices. It’s encrypted, and you can have the passphrase file locally on multiple devices, and the cloud provider cannot access it even by brute forcing. The database itself would not be reliant on the cloud service, you can easily switch between any provider (I currently use dropbox)

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    Maps is the hardest thing to replace. I like comaps but it’s hard to find any businesses on it. They should probably start scrapping google maps because there no way to get ahead at this point.

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      I use Mapy (EU)

      Murena Workspace and kDrive instead of Gmail/Gdrive

      AlterSend (P2P) instead of DropBox

      vgy.me (UK) instead of Google Photos

      Search - Mojeek, Startpage, MetaGer

      AI - Andisearch

      Vivaldi Browser, it’s Calendar, Mail and Mail Client, Feed, Notes

      Zen Browser

      Mandatory Portmaster on Desktop (Windows/Linux) and InViziblePro (Mobile)

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      Have you tried Magic Earth Navigation. I tend to switch between Magic Earth and CoMaps but tend to use MAgic Earth more

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    I don’t trust proton.

    Get a 5$/ month Nextcloud instance on Hertzner or selfhost it. You’ll get 1 tb drive, calendar, notes, office suite, sync with phone, and much much more.

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    Depends on how much privacy you need and how much tinkering to get things to work that you’re willing to put up with.

    In general, using a variety of services will be more private than going with a single entity like Proton.

    Bitwarden is self-hostable, which makes it potentially more private than Protonpass… assuming you actually set up the self-hosting.

    Signal isn’t a good long-term plan, as it’s entirely hosted in the US. I don’t think there are currently any known compromises to the encryption model, but iirc the company can see all your communications metadata (which means the government could potentially as well). I don’t mind it for talking with friends, but I would recommend against it for extreme privacy needs (e.g. the government starts getting overzealous with who it counts as enemies of the state, and you or your friends become targets).

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    Duckduckgo -> selfhosted searxng… startpage has also not yet been involved in any controversy for a non selfhosted option.

    Copy paste of why duck duck go is a problem:

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-browser-allows-microsoft-trackers-due-to-search-agreement/

    Now I little after this came out they do claim they removed them (odd how that suddenly changes after it was no longer secret) But then much more recent as listed on wikipedia, verifying they still have some long term deals with microsoft in **2025**… microsoft is not going to make a deal with a perceived competitor for nothing in return.

    By August 2025, Bing planned to cut off access to its search APIs in a push to sell more AI-related APIs, though **DuckDuckGo believed that larger companies like it with long-term deals would not be affected** 62 Bing had dramatically raised rates for its search API in 2022 after ChatGPT debuted. 62

    There is also more general proof that while duck may technically use other sources also. It really is mostly bing:

    During a Bing API outage in 2024, DuckDuckGo stopped showing results, indicating that Bing provided a substantial portion of DuckDuckGo’s results.69 70

    I literally do not understand how they managed to take such foothold in real privacy communities. I used to love brave till the i was repeatedly pointed to the scandals that many people are aware of and informing others about… but considering ddg i rarely see anyone pointing this out. It actually smells like a huge successful marketing adventure to sell bing to privacy enthusiasts, but for that i obvio do not have proof. I often imagine this meme with bing instead of google and a cute duck go as mr incognito

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    Maps - > CoMaps Photos - > Immich (if you can self host) Passwords - > Bitwarden (May change in the future)

    I agree with others on trying to not have one service for everything, which proton is trying to become. An alternative to Proton Mail and Calendar would be Tuta, though I haven’t used them.

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      mailbox also.

      always check the profit motive. Often if it’s free, unsupported by donation/subscription nor sponsors with that system, and if it costs quite some money to uphold, then your data is the product.

      I’m always pretty wary of when a company or its parent goes public, be it by IPO or trading - then ownership is no longer in people’s hands but in profit’s hands.

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    Would CoMaps be a better recommendation than OSMand?

    For those who are familiar with Ente, how are their apps? I use something different for 2FA and photos, but I need recommendations for people who don’t want to deal with selfhosting and backing up Aegis

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      I switched from Google Authenticator to Ente Auth recently and am very, very happy. It works great.

      I haven’t tried their other apps yet, though. I intend to take a look at their images app.

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      Ente is pretty nice, Their UI’s are clean and not bloated much. I don’t use their online services though.

      Edit: I use Osm since ive been using it for years now, all map’s are pretty much forks, either from Osm or something that uses Open Street Map (from my understanding)

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        If you don’t use the online services of Ente photos, check out refra (used to be called “gallery” but changed recently).

        Clean UI, customizable to a degree, can download AI models to your phone for photo search. Personally it felt faster than Ente and didn’t have buttons to the online service that I kept clicking on by mistake.

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    I’d add criteria, e.g.

    • GDPR compliant
    • no link with advertising companies
    • free software or open source
    • self-hostable
    • security audit

    etc and overall have a reasonable default option but not hide that there are alternative. We want everybody to move away but if everybody moves to Proton as a suite and they enshitify then we are (nearly) back to square one. So I think showing that good alternatives exist is great. Helping people who already use an alternative others, maybe even better one for THEIR criteria also exist, is even better.

    I’d also add a Github (or better CodeBerg or self-hosted Gitea) link at the bottom to https://github.com/ente-io/privacypack with the license (MIT) visible.

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      As for GDPR, California has something similar, so that also might be good. California still falls under the federal CLOUD Act and their like, though.

      If advertising companies (or really, stuff with an incentive to hunger for data) are a concern, I would not recommend the search engine Startpage. Other than that, its policies are afaik fairly decent.

      For software, I think it being OSS or at least fully audited by an independent, transparent security auditor, is crucial. You want to avoid shell companies and such whose ultimate ownership is unclear. Or CEOs with questionable histories.

      Self-hostability is a good one, though not everyone has the expertise required.

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        Not everyone car for the same things nor has the same abilities indeed, that’s why I’m thinking of optional filters. I also want to clarify the process is important to keep in mind, namely if somebody just started to move away from BigTech or surveillance capitalism or whatever is problematic for them, it’s not the same as somebody else who dedicated their live to that a decade ago. So IMHO the hope is that people can add more and more filters whenever they feel comfortable they have the available resources to do so. It’s a journey for each of us, on different paths at difference paces.

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    What is obsidian and signal note to self?

    Rn I just add me wife to new chats and keep my notes there. Im sre she loves it.