The left one for sure. If it ain’t baked, hit the breaks.
Huh?
White people can’t cook is the joke.
Honestly, seeing what some people call seasoning, they have a point.
It is generally true, due to a bunch of factors. Personally, I’ve observed 2 factors:
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a lot of culinary tradition was lost by the boomers and their parents due to the advent of mass-produced, packaged food and the Great Depression. A lot of very basic, holistic techniques like making broth, rendering fat, became less common as magazine recipes, refrigeration, and boxed food encouraged discrete “buy x y z for recipe A” instead of having an assortment of preserved veggies/meats, broth, lard from previous days etc, to work with and learn from. I was genuinely confused to find my dad had to teach himself a lot of it in his 20s and my mom never learned.
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Economic/cultural history. A lot of families didn’t see making food better as worth sparing any effort or time on. My grandma’s boiled veggies and potatoes, no seasoning, and meat fried in a pan, no sesoning, eaten and cleaned up as quickly as possible come to mind.
Can confirm 1, dad grew up on TV dinners and canned food; and somehow Grandma thought it was ok to add ketchup to make spaghetti sauce. That second one might be 2, too, actually.
Also, and in addition.
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That was annoying but correct
dear god the comment section ☢️
I make it my goal in life to defy the white people can’t cook stereotype. My wife’s family is the epitome of this, so I’m the designated chef for a lot of our family dinners. My Mac n Cheese is stupid good though.
Freshly grated cheeses (sharp cheddar, gruyere/fontina, smoked gouda, parmigiano reggiano) and a bit of American for that sodium citrate emulsifying power, melted into a piping hot beschemel with Dijon, mustard powder, paprika, a pinch of thyme, and a hit of cayenne. Mix in some drained elbow or penne pasta, cooked to just al dente in well salted water, in a baking dish. Depending on my mood/desire for texture, either top with reserved cheese or some seasoned, buttered, well-crushed Ritz crackers. Bake until browned nicely.
Been making Mac like this for a few years and it is regularly the favorite of the meal. Gotta use a variety of cheeses that give you strong cheesy flavor, creaminess, smokiness and nuttiness. The mustard is also important to cut the richness of the cheese.
I make it my goal in life to defy the white people can’t cook stereotype.
The most delicious way to be a race traitor o7
If there’s a race war, I’mma be on the side with the seasoning. Gumbo, bbq, jerk chicken, greens… I’ll leave you guys the tuna casseroles and cobb salad.
Damn. I’m diabetic and on a low carb diet. I’ve been wanting to try and make a cauliflower version of Mac and cheese and your comment makes me want to try it even more.
I miss carbs 😭
You’d need to replace the bechemel to eliminate the carbs in the flour. You can make a similar sauce with butter, cream cheese, heavy cream, chicken broth, and an egg yolk. It will taste a bit cheesier than typical beschemel, but that is hardly problem for mac n cheese. And the wheat pasta needs to be changed out, obviously. You could always get low carb pasta, or just replace the mac entirely. The sauce would go great on some steamed/roasted veggies too. Like broccoli or cauliflower, green beans, mushrooms, etc.
Thanks for the tips. How much flour is in there? Small amounts of carbs is ok, it’s unavoidable, really. I’ve had some decent low-carb pastas.
For the recipe I use, it calls for equal parts, 4 tbsp (1/4 cup), butter and flour and 2.5 cups milk. Which is 23-24 gram of carbs from the flour and 28-30 grams from the milk.
Who said that white people can’t cook?
French and italian food is generally regarded as good.
The stereotype is usually that the British can’t cook.
There’s a common stereotype that white Americans don’t use seasoning or cook from scratch. And that’s not exactly unfounded. I’ve known plenty that cook this way.
…i don’t like mac and cheese bakes. I’m so sorry.
Same. I might be biased because my mom would get the frozen mac&cheese dinner and bake them, and the macaroni was always over done and grossly mushy. The cheese also tasted weirdly grainy.
“I ate a bad version of a dish, so I know I don’t like that dish” is how that sounds
That’s exactly how it is. If the first 10 times you have baked macaroni and cheese it’s awful, you’re not going to want to try it again.
I also don’t like baked apples because I was violently ill after eating apple crumble once. Same with grape Smirnoff Ice.
Just so everyone here knows, these pictures do not need to be mutually exclusive. You can do both.
Baked Mac and cheese is the only Mac and cheese. I miss my mom’s so fucking much it’s crazy. I can make it, but nobody made it like her.
Every single time someone tells me they put their heart and soul into something like the left one full of ingredients that sound magic,I take a bite and it’s hella mid.
Dickeys BBQ makes the best version of the one on the right of any chain I’ve been to. Dip waffle fries in it for majesty.
You can absolutely make baked mac like the left and have it be amazing, but I’m with you that most people don’t make “proper home made” mac and cheese nearly as well as they think they do, even if the top looks ll delicious like in the pic. Coincidentally, the best mac and cheese I ever made looked like the right, but that was only because people were getting impatient so I decided to skip the baking part.
You need to get it with chicken or pulled pork in it. Mmmmmm
I’d rather have macaroni salad. Mac and cheese is too formal for a picnic
What the uppity hell is formal about Mac and cheese?
Mac and cheese requires utensils, while good macaroni salad is drinkable
…no?
You only need utensils for mac and cheese when it’s hot, though.
Joke’s on you, I prefer cheese soup with noodles.
How do I make the left one?
It really depends on the recipe. The most basic is just regular mac and cheese with extra cheese on top and broil to color on top. Don’t want to overdo it.
Some like having extras for toppings aside from cheese such as crackers, cheez-its, bread crumbs, or even hot cheetos.
Often times the mac and cheese mixture is fortified to enhance creaminess or help prevent breaking the sauce from the heat. This can be in the form of additional cheese folded in (grated cheeses or cream cheese chunks folded in, or including some sodium citrate like american cheese, velveeta, or granules to smooth out the cheese. Some recipes even call for addition of eggs before baking. There is a risk of over baking which can lead to noodles soaking up too much sauce which can lose the saucy texture and become dry, or end up breaking the sauce and end with an oily mess.
It starts with six pounds of pig tails and two pounds of pork belly.
I don’t know if this translates to mac n cheese but if you put things like frozen pizza in a convection oven/air fryer it comes out as if it was from a pizzeria.
The one on the right is still good, and better for mixing with other stuff on the plate, like mashed potatoes and gravy.
am i the only person who finds them both appetizing
Dumb question but what’s the difference? As someone who grew up on the orange stuff from a box, and learned to make the one on the right in recent years, what am I looking for? Is the left just baked? I’ve done that. Is it a topping or spice that encourages browning?
Everyone shed a tear for this poor individual.
If I were there I’d invite you to the next cookout. The sleeper must awaken.
If you’re making the one on the right using flour + butter-> brown -> Milk -> cheese then you’re mostly there. You just slightly undercook the noodles before mixing in the cheese sauce and cover with shredded cheese and bake until the top browns. Some people will add panko/breadcrumbs for a bit of crunch.
I would absolutely make it this way with a roux to bake it. If I’m not baking it though you can for sure one pan it. Drain mostly cooked noodles, milk, butter, Velveeta, cream cheese, and a little bit of any other hard orange cheese you might have. Principally, this is I believe the main application for Velveeta besides queso and it’s the star of Mac and cheese on the stovetop.
Velveeta is a lot safer in these kinds of recipes because it’s less likely to clump if your roux/milk/cheese ratio is off.
However, you can just use the same cheat that Velveeta uses, a culinary emulsifier, to get the same results while also using high quality cheese. Traditionally the roux acts as an emulsifier but it’s easy to have too much fats for the amount of roux that you’ve made so you get the clumping/grainy texture. Using sodium citrate you can just mix the cheese and milk directly without needing to make the roux. It’s very convenient to just heat milk and put cheese in it without fussing with the roux.
Here’s a recipe if you want to try it (spoiler: it’s basically milk, cheese, sodium citrate):
https://modernistcuisine.com/recipes/silky-smooth-macaroni-and-cheese/
Thanks, I’ll give it a try
So the moral here is get baked on June 19th?










