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In the new blog post, Google’s Matthew Forsythe confirms that the developer verification system is slated to come online on September 30 of this year. The initial deployment will be limited to countries with a high level of app scams: Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand.
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Google released its new developer console back in March, inviting external developers the opportunity to pay $25 and verify their identities early. Developers who don’t register will find that their apps cannot be sideloaded on Google-certified Android devices once verification has rolled out. Google says that almost every app in the Play Store is now ready for the change, and a “large majority” of apps outside Google Play have completed verification.
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Google says it will verify the apps in the following stores when it begins enforcing the new restrictions.
Google (Google Play)
Honor (HONOR App Market)
OPlus (OPPO App Market)
Samsung (Galaxy Store)
Transsion (Palm Store)
vivo (V-Appstore)
Xiaomi (GetApps)
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The next step toward verifying apps will come this month as Google deploys a new system service on most certified devices. The package (com.google.android.verifier) will appear on phones and tablets running Android 8 or higher, allowing Google to block the installation of unverified apps. It will remain dormant until verification is activated in your specific region.
In July, Google plans to roll out the new developer APIs and begin testing for “limited distribution” accounts. This is Google’s solution for hobbyists who want to make their own apps and share them with a small group. Limited accounts won’t require a fee or government ID verification, but you can install these apps on up to 20 devices.
In August, the advanced flow will become available globally ahead of verification becoming mandatory in the first markets. As detailed a few months ago, the advanced flow will allow users to bypass verification, but the process isn’t easy. You’ll have to navigate to a buried menu, confirm you understand the risks multiple times, and wait a whole day before completing the process.
And that brings us to September, when Android devices in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand will begin checking verification status before installing apps. However, things get murky after that. Google will undoubtedly monitor how verification works as millions of users are suddenly limited to verified apps, which could affect how it moves forward. Google says it intends to expand developer verification in 2027, eventually making it a global device policy.
I hope this leads to the death of Androud and the rise of something more open to replace it. There was a huge market for it when Android came out in competition with Apple’s closed model, but now that Google is closing up Android, let’s hope alternatives get some attention. Unfortunately, alternatives will mean no tap to pay, no RCS, etc., for a long time, since Apple, Google, et al., turned these things as proprietary as possible, but I’d still like a decent alternative to get enough power to eventually change those things.
This is a crazy thought, we could elect people willing to enforce anti monopoly laws that are already on the books.
Fantastic idea. As soon as we have that option, that’s what I’ll do. Until then I suppose I’ll watch the two parties full of right wingers ruin everything.
Fuck this shit!
How greedy are you?
Up until now, I haven’t been overwhelmingly emotional about all the horrible things happening right now.
I don’t know why this news hit me particularly hard. Reading it made me feel like a part of me died. Got glassy eyed. This kind of feels like the final betrayal in a sense. Not the ultimate betrayal, but one super close to my heart.
Pathetic
GrapheneOS is the way to go
I switched a couple months ago and it’s been absolutely fantastic
Google, you stick to your guns, I’ll stick to mine. Sayonara.
This is like if Walmart started policing what products Target can sell and policing what products can go into your house, while not bothering to police their own store.
Sooo if I just use adb to disable that service
com.google.android.verifier
I wont have to put up with google’s bs?
And now I’ll never be interested in creating software for android. I hope google’s LLMs are up to the task.
How can I stop it from happening on a Samsung s25? Can I just not update Google services somehow? Atleast until I can import a phone with graphene or Motorola releases one? I dont care about the apps from outside store but I do about the verified device shit.
LineageOS is the way.
So is there a way to bypass this or is basically everyone using a phone that isn’t one of the fancy Linux ones essentially fucked?
https://github.com/woheller69/FreeDroidWarn#solutions
Here’s a copy/paste, sans hyperlinks:
Developer verification will be enforced on certified devices with Google Play Services installed, which is the majority of Android devices. There are options to bypass the restriction:
- Use a free, uncensored Android system like /e/os, LineageOS, or GrapheneOS that does not preinstall Google Play Services.
- “Degoogle” by removing Google Play Services. If it is a system app, you can uninstall it using ADB.
- Install apps via ADB. Google has already confirmed that ADB will continue to work in the future. You can either use ADB from a PC as described below or use a wireless ADB based installer like anyapk.
An additional sting for some of us -
In Australia, not only is 3G deprecated (I miss my Nokia n91), but 4G / 5G must be of the VoLTE variety. To date, there is no after market OS that is fully VoLTE compatible (Legacy, Graphine etc) here - its hit or miss. Additionally, most (but not all) overseas phones are on IMEI black lists by default.
Essentially, because the OEM are lock step with Google, you can’t avoid this issue by purchasing a common phone, unlocking your boot loader (assuming you could in the first place) and flashing CFW. Do that and you can’t make phone calls. Don’t do it, and you get caught up with this new app verification slop.
They think they’re winning… but I think “lol. Keep going. I have a flip phone.” As soon as this Samsung dies (adb debloated and all), I’m out entirely.
My Galaxy A20 has been going strong since 2019. If I get anything, I’ll either be something from that era or just go full flip phone.
PS: someone mentioned the commodore flipphone. I like Perri and the C64 revival but let’s be honest here…the Callback 8020 phone is $$$ for pretty bog standard dumb phone parts. The components don’t justify it (barring perhaps the 48MP camera), let alone some of the design decisions.
If you look, I imagine you can find a local equivalent of this instead -
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/opel-mobile-touchflip-4g-flip-phone-optouchfp
(TTfone or Sunbeam I think?)
With right launcher and larger battery, I find it perfectly cromulent, with very good keyboard. It even runs FUTO voice STT (albeit slowly), my banking apps, Signal, FB messenger, maps, 5MP camera etc. It’s not going to replace flagship anything… but maybe it doesn’t need to. And it’s 1/8th the cost.
There’s a good YouTube channel for anyone considering such devices -
What sort of incompatibilities are present with VoLTE? I’ve used Graphene for about a year and a half without issue but then again I pretty much only use my phone for calls messages and lemmy
Yeah, that’s the fun bit. It’s not that Graphene can’t do calls.
It’s that in Australia, post-3G, “works on 4G” is no longer enough. The phone / firmware / carrier combo has to play nicely with VoLTE, IMS provisioning, and 000 emergency calling. If the carrier doesn’t like that exact combo, you can have perfectly good LTE data and still lose service or get nuked by IMEI/TAC filtering.
Graphene on a supported Pixel is probably the best-case scenario. Sadly, that doesn’t generalise to other phones here. It’s a dice roll.
TL;DR: VoLTE is carrier-blessed black magic. Same bands, same radio hardware on paper…very different outcomes.
Very cromulent system. Much consumer choice.
does anyone know why would anyone use any of the mentioned stores instead of the play store? using f-droid has a clear benefit (they are also not on the supported list). but what is the purpose of those mainly manufacturer specific stores?
If you buy a mainland China phone the app store will be local, for example Oppo store, and Play will be only available as a workaround. I think mainland China phones will be unaffected by Google’s sideloading restriction.
I hate this timeline
