John Deere brags about sabotaging competitors & customers on hot mic - they’re PROUD of it!
Sounds like another industry in dire need of competition. Makes sense that they’re fighting tooth and nail to keep a deathgrip on what they’ve still got (for now).
There’s plenty of competition; the problem isn’t the proprietary firmware, it’s the expensive parts. You can still fix 99% of a machine yourself, you might have to get a tech out to put a CANbus ID into the computer so a new part that you put on works.
But it still comes down to the fact that the competition don’t make as good/productive of a machine, and parts availability, even if they are expensive, is key. I’ve paid $1000 for a part I could make myself on a mill, but it would take me a day and I’d lose $100,000 of lost production on that machine because rain is coming.
That’s fair, there’s definitely more to it than just having the capability when you’re also dealing with weather and other factors that impact your deadlines. I’m not a fan of equipment manufacturers who exploit their stranglehold on their customers even though I see why it happens.
I don’t think anyone’s suggesting that right-to-repair replaces repair options from the OEM, but it’s a critical option to have in a functional product support ecosystem and Deer’s trying to cut it out entirely.
Very interesting to hear a user’s perspective.
This is probably the first time I’ve made a comment like this on a thread about Deere that hasn’t been downvoted into the basement. People don’t want to hear about what the ground truth of this situation is, they want to hate a company that they haven’t ever actually dealt with.
Don’t get me wrong, I would like to see Deere stop some of their practices, particularly using opensource software like Linux to power their devices and then selling them at steep prices to farmers that sometimes barely have enough money to fix a tire on one of these machines. But the “unrepairability” of Deere equipement is massively misunderstood by most of these armchair warriors, including Rossman.
On the plus side, the uproar has given us the ability to go buy a diagnostic computer from Deere now for the low, low prices of $26,000. It takes a lot of $100 tech visits to make that pay.
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TIL Kubota is the Brother Printers option for tractors. Good to know!
Fuck John Deere and their anti-self repair bs.
The individuals using these machines don’t have time to wait for some tech to find the time to get to BFE, Kansas.
Louis Rossmann in his natural habitat.
They only seem popular on high subsidy farms.
Yeah I don’t know how anyone could compel themselves to buy one. Do they really have that much of a monopoly on the industry? Is their tech that much further advanced? I genuinely don’t know.
What is the best, more ethical alternative? Growing up my dad had New Holland and we liked them. Eventually I’ll be going more rural and choosing a route to take and it sure as shit won’t be John Deere.
One? Probably not. A fleet of 5-20 to tend a thousand or more acres, I can see that. They’ve basically got the things able to run on autopilot for many processes
This is the natural result of what we vote for every two years.
The result of vote is only as good at the voting system used and the people voting. A more representative voting system leads to more public representation in government, which would likely improve the lives of the voters who will vote next time.
You’re much more optimistic than I am.
I’m not sure about that. A party that ‘wins’ under first-past-the-post/winner-take-all is unlikly to change the voting system such that they would be less likely to get into power next time. I have no idea of the path to changing the voting system. I hope intoducing people to other voting systems helps.
Corporations would have us all subscribe to the oxygen supply if they could.
Take apart all the things. Reverse engineer their shit. Create open alternatives. Fuck all these monsters. John Deere, Apple, Samsung, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, everybody included.
Spacebaaaaallllls! 🎶
Something on which we can all agree.
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I remember my grandpa casually telling a story one time when our family went out for pizza. He talked about how all the farm animals in the village and surrounding villages in Mexico suddenly died, and then John Deere came around selling tractors. This would’ve happened around the late 1950s I think. I have no idea if this is true or not.
Is he airbrushing his thumbnails? , he’s so shiny
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this is what you get when you gut regulatory powers in your government, you morons who vote Republican… pull your heads out of your lazy, fat asses…
Nice try on inserting political circle jerk comment into a non partisan issue.
what do you fail to understand about what i said… or is that ass just too cozy inside…
Governor Hochul sabotages NY right to repair bill, right on schedule
Thats Another video from Louis
Get educated instead of shilling your brain dead politics, boy
