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Isn’t this a message that the intended recipient will never see?
He’s going to go around them and make them read it.
Fuck that, this is the asshole that rides endlessly in my blind spot.
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You’re correct, but as a schematic the image is also correct.
Seriously, driving slow and clogging the passing lane is irritating and dangerous, but tailgating is just making a dangerous situation even worse. Plus, if a person is already absentminded enough to be cruising in the left lane they’re likely not going to be rational enough to interpret that as “move over.” Instead they’ll just think “some crazy asshole is on my ass” and either keep as-is, panic, or try some spiteful move like slowing down in the left lane and further compound things.
Zero “people” are defending this. Anyone defending this is subhuman.
Allowing someone to tailgate you for an extended period is also an asshole maneuver.
Unpopular opinion. But my experience has been that the people who have road rage the worst, are incredibly hostile, aggressive, reckless, and dangerous drivers.
they are always riding other drivers ass. Cutting them off. Refusing to let other drivers in. Whipping around fast any time anyone in front of them isn’t going 10 miles over the speed limit. Just the worst drivers.
They cause accidents too. I know two such guys. They both have a long history of car accidents. Whereas I, a non hostile friendly driver, have none. And I’m 40.
It’s because I don’t drive like an jackass. These are the same kind of men who insist women can’t drive. Yet my record compared to theirs says otherwise.If I see someone trying to merge. I make room for them.
I don’t drive right up behind people. I don’t honk if they are going a little below the speed limit. I mean there are speed cams all over cities.
It’s normal for people to be a little conservative with speed to not get those $150 tickets.
Sometimes people are new to the area. Or trying to follow a gps.
I doubt anyone is driving slow just to fuck with me. A stranger in another car. You know?
I also don’t assume people are intentionally trying to fuck up my day. No one drives perfect 24/7. We all miss our turn. Occasionally forget to check before merging. People make mistakes. Getting angry is not productive or helpful.
I don’t get mad at people for messing up one time. You know? But if they are driving aggressively and putting other people at risk I sometimes do use some passive aggressive methods to block them in so they can’t swerve like a maniac around other cars and cause an accident.
It’s pretty rare that I do that but I have. This comes from my opinions on anti-social behavior in society needing to be discouraged. You may or may not agree with my stance on this. ("Anti social refers to disruptive hostile social behaviors, not how much of an introvert someone is).
One time I did it, it was apparently an unmarked cop car. They kept using the shoulder to weave in and out of slow traffic. Very aggressively. Forcing themselves between cars. Not waiting for gaps.
So I slightly pulled to the right to block them from using the shoulder to keep doing it. Then they flashed their lights at me. I’m certain they were not on a cop mission. Just an asshole entitled cop. Otherwise he would have just drove on the shoulder with his lights on.
Being a cop doesn’t mean you get to drive where you put other people at risk because you think you shouldn’t have to sit in traffic. Everyone has places they need to get to. That’s why we are all in cars driving.
That’s sweet and all…
Get over to the right bro. Yes people drive dangerously. Yes there are improvements everyone can make.
GET OVER.
If you are in the left lane and you are not passing, you are a full-to-the-top absolute shitwagon. These are the rules.
I doubt anyone is driving slow just to fuck with me. A stranger in another car. You know?
I’ll add to this that a lot of people are walking around with this fiction in their head about ‘good drivers’. In reality, driving is a skill and not everyone can be good at it. We really don’t want people like that driving fast, and maybe not as fast as everyone else at that.
So, I see someone driving slow and I honestly think “maybe this is the best they can do knowing that it would be dangerous to go faster, beyond what their reflexes can handle.”
Thank you! I honestly get pretty anxious, especially in my dingy little car, going the speed limit.
Completely agree around the “good drivers” fallacy. We’re all human - emotional, tired, thinking about other things.
And the risk and consequences of a crash increase disproportionately with speed while the time gain has diminishing returns. So I’m happy getting there 5 mins later after 2 h of driving safely and calmly
I’ve been taking the bus to work some days and the emotional difference between riding bumpers for 30 minutes and being on the bus listening to tunes and reading for 50 is noticeable. I miss the bus on days when I take the car in.
That’s a lot of words to justify camping in the left lane.
Not the person you responded to, and I generally don’t camp in the left lane, but when I am in the left lane and actively passing someone, more often than not there’s some dude behind me that can’t even wait for me to get 20’-30’ in front of the vehicle in the right lane before I switch and they speed up and wedge themselves through the gap on and angle between us to zoom off.
Yeah, and that’s ridiculous behavior, I’ll agree. My rule to myself is if someone is actively passing, I give them space to do so. Now, if you pass and then fail to move over, I might try to encourage you to do so. I don’t like to pass people on the right, I think driving is easier when we expect to pass people to our right and be passed by people on our left.
They didn’t say they did. I didn’t read it as justifying other people driving slow in the lane, but rather criticizing the aggressive drivers
I know, I was just being a mook. It was too many words, and I’m an avid reader, but we’re on a shitpost (I think we are), gotta be succinct.
Wait yeah this is a shitpost. Nvm, carry on, and go fuck yourself 😇
When did I say I camp in the left lane?
You assume this because I said I’m not a hostile driver ?
That says a lot about you.
10 mph over is the normal driving speed on US highways.
If you’re going to be a slow poke, I suggest you start practicing reverse passing. Are you on a road with one lane in each direction, and someone comes up behind you wanting to pass? Instead of being an asshole and trying to stop them, be a positive influence and help them. It’s far easier to reverse pass than to pass, as you’re slowing down rather than speeding up.
Reverse passing is just like it sounds - passing in reverse. You enter the left lane, slow down rapidly, and then move back over. You force the driver behind you to pass you whether they want to or not.
There, now you’re the driver in the following position. You just eliminated a traffic hazard, and you can go at your own pace without inconveniencing anyone. Take your slow Sunday drives if you want, but don’t be an asshole. It’s extremely anti-social behavior.
Reverse passing is just like it sounds - passing in reverse. You enter the left lane, slow down rapidly, and then move back over. You force the driver behind you to pass you whether they want to or not.
No no no. God sweet Jesus no. NEVER EVER DO THAT.
If you want someone to pass you, here is what you do. Wait until there is a clear stretch of road for them to pass on, and move your car as far to the right as possible so they can see around you easily, and then let them pass if they want to. If you really want to encourage them, slow down just a tad, maybe 3-5 mph, and if that doesn’t work, throw on your hazards too.
I’m a slow driver, at or slightly below the speed limit. My tips for not pissing people off:
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Use your cruise control/maintain speed. People can get used to whatever speed you’re at, but if you keep changing your speed, they’ll keep accelerating into it and slamming on the brakes.
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When the road opens up nice and straight with clear visibility, for fucks sake, DO NOT SPEED UP (see: 1), even though it feels natural to do so. There’s a line of cars behind you that have been waiting for the dotted yellow line to pass you–and where you feel like it’s safe to go faster is usually where they put those dotted lines.
Thank you. I love driving behind people like you. I’ll keep a safe distance and wait it out for a passing lane. But my God i loose my shit when I wait it out and they do everything to try to stop me from passing, accelarate/ hog the passing lane try to block view. Etc.
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What’s wrong with reverse passing exactly? It’s safer than regular passing as it requires less distance to slow down than speed up a vehicle, at least in my experience.
Pretty much every thing about it.
It’s a weird maneuver. People get into the passing lane to pass. If you get into the passing lane and hit the brakes, you are just asking to confuse the people behind you.
It sends confusing information to the people behind you. If I see the car ahead of me hop out of lane while clearly not in a passing situation, it’s usually because there is something hazardous in the road, and I need to dodge it as well, I’d be moving out of lane pretty much the exact moment you started slamming your brakes.
You have less visibility behind you than you do in front, making the maneuver much more dangerous. You might be popping out of lane to do your “Reverse pass” at the exact moment the person behind you, in or a person behind them decides to pass. You could also get stuck in a situation where you go for the “reverse pass” and realize that there is actually more cars behind you than you expected, and now you’re stuck going slow in the wrong lane with no way to get back over.
Cars can (almost) always brake faster than they can accelerate. If you need to get back into your original place because it is unsafe to complete the pass, it’s a lot easier to slow down to get back to it, than it is to accelerate to get back to it.
Don’t “reverse pass”. In fact, you really should pull your post or edit it to advise people not to do it. It’s illegal, it’s dangerous and it will get people hurt or killed. This is not a joke or a shit-post. I’m dead serious.
You just eliminated a traffic hazard
… by creating a traffic hazard.
Frankly I don’t see how reverse passing is any more dangerous than forward passing. If anything it’s less dangerous as it requires less road distance.
Is this one of those things that just feels dangerous, so therefore it must be?
One scenario is a speeding car is coming up behind the car trailing. You can’t see it and it can’t see you. You merge into the lane just as the speeder enters it to pass and you get rear-ended.
Insurance actuaries agree: men are worse drivers.
This the the guy two inches behind me when I’m already doing 15 over the speed limit
Same.
If I’m going faster than other traffic and already over the limit by a decent amount, I’ll move over once the middle lane is clear, but I’m not speeding up just because you’re impatient.
In fact, I’ll slow down just a wee bit.
I give no fucks.
But, the caveat to that is that I don’t loiter in the passing lane at ten under the limit. It’s the passing lane. I’m there because, you know, I’m passing people and not because I think I need to do 95 mph in a lifted truck just to assert my dominance over the morning commute.
I stay in the passing lane if I am still passing people, but my car’s radar maintains a gap at speed and I’m not going to force it dangerously close. Revving up to climb in my backseat doesn’t make the car in front of me go any faster.
I think that looks like tailgating because you couldn’t have a sticker to scale with the cars at proper distance from each other. It’s just a model showing cars need to drive in the driving lane not the passing lane.
It’s his god given right to get a speeding ticket and you are trampling his freedom!!! /s
If you drive normally I’ll let you pass. But if you’re up in my ass flashing highbeams when I’m still overtaking? Grab a snack buddy cause we’re going nowhere and we’re not going there fast either.
Edit: Some salty fucks in here dogpiling a silly comment on the internets. Sure is reddit in here
Though I read a story (I think on lemmy, though it’s been a while) of someone trying to meet an ambulance in the middle of nowhere (Texas, I want to say?) as their friend was bleeding out, basically.
A lady did what you describe and it took critical time away. The friend ended up dying just before they met the emts.
Not everyone who looks like they are a dick, are one.
Thats what emergency flashers are for.
Yeah if they aren’t using the emergency lights then it means there’s no emergency. Pretty sure the first comment was talking about normal road users anyway…
Emergency flashers… on your typical like Nissan Altima (or whatever)?
The two vehicles were headed to a central meeting point to save critical time, in the actual middle of nowhere.
Yes, it’s the red triangle button, give it a shot sometime!
That’s not an ‘emergency flasher’ button, it’s the hazards, and it’s for when you’re broken down or crashed, or (illegally) stack your home depot run 17 pallets high.
I’m a first responder (at least, used to be) and that button is known in the states as the ‘park wherever you want’ button and nothing else.
Fun fact, using the hazard indicators while moving on a public road can be a cited offense. But you have fun going wee-woo and playing pretend emergency man. Maybe lose the snappy attitude though, it’s indicative of your age and knowledge.
https://legaloverview.com/is-it-illegal-to-drive-with-hazards-on/
Here’s a article about the differences, goes into detail about Texas
Texas law enforcement generally takes a common-sense approach to hazard enforcement. Officers focus on genuinely dangerous driving, not technical violations of hazard rules… Texas gives drivers wide latitude on hazard use, but using them without any valid safety reason can still draw attention.
I am fairly certain a person bleeding to death would be a common-sense usage due to driving well above the speed limit to get help.
My comment was snarky because, as you said, people in the states don’t use them for anything but parking illegally and many don’t know what it’s for. I have had to explain what it’s for to people decades older. Again from the article:
State laws use various terms including “hazard warning lights,” “emergency flashers,” “four-way flashers,” and simply “flashers.”
I was raised on Emergency Flashers, you obviously weren’t, and thats fine, but don’t try talking me down because you think you’re right without checking first. Lots of people coming in here with an unlinked story that, tbh, sounds extremely far fetched to justify someone not switching lanes as fast as the person most certainly speeding wants gets on my nerves real quick.
For every 1 speeder who’s trying to reach the ER in time to save their friends life, there are 10,000 deaths caused by speeding.
Give me a break with this bullshit second hand tale. I’m not going to treat tailgaters like they are on their way to save a life. They take lives.
This wasn’t a typical driver in an urban environment, again thus was the middle of nowhere with low traffic. They also, again, weren’t trying to reach the hospital, they were being instructed to meet medical staff halfway as the dispatcher and emts determined that was the best course of action.
But it’s obviously that you’d rather feel morally superior than compassionate for someone trying to save a life; and you clearly have experience making these kinds of judgement calls, right? What a sad, sad person you must be.
Oh boo hoo HOOOOOO!!
There is no way to lane block someone on a remote rural road. If you’re racing to save a life you just fucking pass in the other lane.
There’s no moral superiority about this. Your anecdote is just bullshit and doesn’t change the fact that driving fast and tailgating causes more accidents than it saves lives.
If you do what the comment describes it’s fine. But if you do it to an ambulance you deserve to be shot as I do think we can all agree there is a distinct difference between any regular car and an ambulance.
Anecdotes aren’t data.
Ride my ass so closely that you put me in danger, and I’m taking my time.
Just move the fuck over and don’t subject everyone to this bs. My husband does this and twice now these psychos acted erratically and followed us home. How the fuck is it worth it? Move over let them pass and get pulled over if it’s that bad.
What I’m hearing is “don’t dress like that if you don’t want to get assaulted”. Is that right?
I’m going to move over. But if you’re up my ass then I need to have much farther stopping distance from the car in front of me, to account for the decrease in response time from the follower. Which means I can’t pass as quickly or get over as fast.
There’s “don’t dress like you want to be assaulted” and then there’s “don’t look up your local sex offender registry, find the most violent rapist you can, drink a handle of vodka and eat three edibles, break into their house when they’re away, and tie yourself nude to their bed.”
I absolutely don’t blame rape victims for their rape, at least in any sane scenario. But if someone did the latter, yeah, I’m sorry, I’m going to say they asked for it. If someone literally goes out of their way to deliberately get raped, well then at that point it’s consensual sex, not rape.
‘data points aren’t data’
Okay but they’re not. Right? Data points by themselves aren’t data. That’s why they have a different name.
If you look at one data point, then everyone with red hair is a billionaire because I saw one once.
Data
data
different name.
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Anecdotes aren’t data points either. For data points to become useful data they have to be standardised across parameters to create valid correlations. Anecdotes are not that.
If you’re that car in the first place, you’re blocking traffic. Get the fuck out of the way.
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The asshole in his giant micropenis truck is right, you are also an asshole when you behave like that.
The tailgater is always the asshole, if there is to be just one.
Sometimes the “tailgater” is doing 10 under the limit while the person in front of them is texting.
Slow down and don’t tailgate. I don’t see how riding someone’s ass, someone who is oblivious for whatever reason, is going to help anything out.
It’s unfortunate, but it does help out in many cases. There are many people who if you give them lots of space while they are in the left lane they assume you don’t want to pass and just sit there, move closer to them and they will move over. It’s unfortunate that it is this way, but many people are like this. They don’t have any understanding that people behind them want to go past them unless the people behind them start driving closer to them.
The tailgater is always an asshole. There may be multiple.
It sure does smell here like an american driving culture.
The tailgater is also an ass hole.
“If I’m tailgating you, you’re an asshole.”
The small dick energy of this truck is amazing.
It makes me feel good to know that done jaggoff in a lifted truck thinks i am an asshole
i hired a car in Miami, driving to Disney world, as an Australian we “keep left” in this situation,. so along with trying to drive at the speed limit, in a foreign country, on the “wrong” side of the road, I kept getting the finger and beeping… wtf. Took me about 4 dudes in trucks “polietly” informing me of my trangression for me to realise… keep right :)
Why the hell would you start towards Disney from Miami… The Florida turnpike is the wild wild west
Hey, you may be used to drive on the other side of the road, you guys lost wars against beetles, toads and emus, everything in your country tries to kill you, but at least you don’t have AR-15’s.
The middle driver is also an asshole in that situation. Stop tailgating.
