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  • Platypus@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    The almond industry is also unfathomably lethal to bees. If you care about bees, eat honey, not almonds—honey producers need their bees alive and well, while almond growers merrily slaughter them by the billions to force off season crops into existence.

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      2 months ago

      Mono cropping in general has killed so many insects. It’s truly absurd. The knock-on effects and damage to the habitats around farms is wild because of it. Unironically plants are murder.

      Humans are really bad at not killing everything.

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        2 months ago

        The majority of the plants we grow are fed to animals first which reduces the calories by over 8x. So if anyone wants to reduce their “plant murder” that’s a good place to start.

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        2 months ago

        Ironically the same bees OP is lamenting about are the reason so many pollinators have died off.

        Honey bees are aggressive foragers, and it’s really a shame we rely on monocrops because it means we also rely on the same honey bees that are killing all our native bees and pollinators.

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    2 months ago

    Given that most Datacenters have not yet been built, this might be accurate for the time being.

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    2 months ago

    The water consumption thing is such a meme. Power consumption? Yup. Waste heat? We got that. Pollution? I don’t know but I can take a guess!

    Water? Eh. Barely.

      • Nindelofocho@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Yea the water isint being destroyed or used up. Its getting back into the ecosystem through some way (hopefully sans pollutants)

        utilization is what goes up and that takes away from people, plants and animals that need it. Basically water bandwidth.

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          17 days ago

          People don’t care about water. People care about local water. And they’re rightfully upset when some data center just throws it into the sky.

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    2 months ago

    I’m sure people don’t irrigate almonds with drinking water. The comparison is kind of meaningless…

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      2 months ago

      Unless they use salt water they draw from the same supply of groundwater or surface water as drinking water.

      Drinking water is usually surface water or groundwater pumped from a lake/river or a drilled hole in the ground passed through a filter, an UV light to kill bacteria, and possibly some chemicals added to get the correct pH.

      The limiting factor for how much drinking water you can make is how much you can pump out of the ground/lake before it dries up.

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        2 months ago

        You don’t know much about irrigation or farming do you? I don’t know about the US but here in the EU, at least where I live, there is like a 2 magnitude difference between pumping water from a channel versus buying tap water.

        Its like ploting the number of people buying food at a fast food joint and a Michelin star restaurant. While both serv food it’s weird and misleading to compare it…

        And why do you mention salt water? How is that a factor? Neither uses salt water.

          • seggturkasz@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            And your point is?

            In California, water is so inaccessible as tap water is where the data centers are?? If so, then OK it would makes sense to compare it.

            But then California wouldn’t be the top almond producer, would it now?

            Your turn ;)