Does anyone run one of the above on a Pi 4 and can share their experience how good or bad they run?
If course, transcoding won’t be any good and OCR probably cannot run in parallel, but aside from that - is it okay?
Currently running everything on a mini ITX with a i5-6600 which handles this easily for my small use cases, but also draws 20-30W idling most of the day… I’m eyeing a Pi 4b with 8gb RAM but don’t want to spend the money and then realizing that it doesn’t run smooth enough
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I tried paperless years ago on my 4B and it did not work well enough to be usable.
Jellyfin was fine.
I’d say getting an x86 think centre or equivalent will cut your idle in half and give you enough overhead to run paperless and jellyfin.
it did not work well enough to be usable.
Was it the overall performance or the OCR specifically?
I have run paperless some time on a pi 3b without OCR (manually doing it on a PC or when scanning with Apps like MakeACopy) and it was okay-ish. Not a lot documents though.
And I thought it was mainly the 1GB RAM limiting (starting Paperless started swapping right away…)
I remember it also having some issues when browsing the scanned files but I did use OCR as that was a requirement for paperless being useful in my case.
It’s very ok, as long as you don’t expect multiple 4K streams at it.
I ran JellyFin on a Pi 4 for about 3 or 4 yrs before it started acting up. So long as you don’t transcode, it works wonderfully well. I had it serving upto 4-5 x 720p streams at same time. IIRC, it can just about do a single 4K, 60? Never tried - all my media is 1080p or less.
IIRC, mine is overclocked and undervolted using PiTools (and is in a Argon 40 case with a m.2). The Argon 40 case (I think) is causing it to short (something with the daughter-board? Dunno). Better options these days.
Paperless I don’t use but I don’t see why it shouldn’t be possible.
Don’t try Immich unless you like pain (or turn off the AI stuff)
Did you just turn off all transcoding or pre-transcoded to 720p mp4 (or similar)?
Or did you just rely on the native apps for direct play?
Paperless, I guess OCR is very taxing, but I mainly had RAM problems regarding this on my Pi 3, with only one doc at a time, it went slow but steady.
Immich maxed out my i5 (all cores on 100) for some minutes when running the ML on my imported test library of ca. 3k Files. So yeah, when choosing the Pi4, I’d go with ente for sure!
Yeah, transcoding entirely off - directly stream stored 720/1080p files (downloaded like that, although I did use handbrake on the pi once to transcode Space 1999 season 1. Took about 2 days I think).
Someone else was just talking about Wyse thin clients. I’m fairly sure that a $40 Wyse thin client out performs even the best Pi 4 (maybe 5 sometimes). If I can’t find a way to fix mine, I may have to buy a few for uh…science. IIRC, they idle at about the same as the Pi
Yeah, I’ve read about using a Wyse 5070 for this a lot by now. Maybe I’ll explicitly search for them instead. All I’ve seen around me are 4gb models, however. The Stack I’m currently running blocks 3.7gb in idle… So that’s not enough
Consider papra as a more lightweight alternative for paperless-ngx. I have not used it yet unfortunately.
Gotta take a look at it and spin one container up. Looks promising, too!
As I’m not completely invested in paperless, I’ll definitely try it out, thanks!
Haven’t seen support for exports/backups at first glance, that is imo a must have.
Zu Paperless-ngx auf dem Pi 4: Für leichte private Dokumentenmengen kann das funktionieren, aber OCR ist der Teil, der schnell zäh wird. Ich würde die Worker klein halten und OCR/Tika/Gotenberg eher auslagern, wenn regelmäßig größere PDFs reinkommen. Paperless selbst ist meist weniger das Problem als OCR + I/O; Jellyfin parallel ist ohne Transcoding deutlich entspannter.
Ja, weniger Worker, dann dauert das OCR eben Mal länger. Da das eher selten ich muss das Dokument sofort im Paperless anschauen, kann das meinetwegen auch seine Minuten brauchen.
Bin bisher auch noch nicht 100% auf den Workflow eingeschossen:
- MakeACopy macht ganz gutes OCR auf dem Handy, die Scans sind aber oft etwas wackelig.
- FairScan macht sehr gute PDFs, aber kein OCR
- Ich habe einen Scanner, der natürlich bei 600DPI nahezu perfekte Kopien macht, die ich auf dem PC per Shell in Sekunden durch OcrMyPDF jagen kann für extrem gute Ergebnisse. Aber>5 Seiten per Hand auf dem Scannerbett… das ist dann schon nervig
