What to people use and recommend for this? I’ve read a bit about portainer, but I’m still learning - and don’t know what the best solutions are.
Today I have a handful of selfhosted services running on my home machine - mostly installed directly, but a couple running as docker containers. As the scale of my selfhosting has grown, I’ve realized that things would be a lot easier to manage if each service was run as its own container, so that installed services are isolated.
The solution I’m looking for would make it easy (possibly a web UI) for me to monitor, modify, update, and remove containerized services, including networking and storage.
Edit: Also I would only want a FOSS solution.
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Dockhand is great. I haven’t touched Portainer ever since.
https://github.com/Finsys/dockhandLooks nice but what kind of license is that?
Thanks, what have you liked about switching to this from portainer?
I just recently switched from portainer to dockhand and I really like it. The UI is great and the setup and config wasn’t too complicated. I like that I can put both of my servers into one instance and can update all of my containers from dockhand vs manually. The other thing I like is being able to view the logs for my containers. Idk if it’s a me thing, but whenever I would try to view logs in portainer I would never be able to scroll up as it would update and send me back to the bottom. Again, I could’ve just been doing something wrong, but it always bothered me and I don’t have that issue with dockhand.
I personally like dockge, it’s simple and lightweight and I like the fact that the webui has a good phone interface.
Dockhe is awesome. You can edit the docker-compose files from its interface and it makes managing containers very easy.
In your shoes (and, in fact, in mine) I’d try to move away from interactive tools and into file-driven ones.
Personally I use nixos, run WUD (what’s up docker) to be notified of available updates, and manually test/update the containers once in a while (every couple weeks or so?)
There are a bazillion other solutions (from stuff like ansible/chef/puppet, to docker-compose, to kubernetes, to… a hand-written bash script) - the idea is to setup stuff via files that you can version, reference and write comments in rather than using some gui for interactive steps that you’ll forget to document in some wiki.
Monitoring is a whole different beast than configuring: you’ll be probably better off using something that does just that instead of some all-in-one solution. Try looking into something like beszel before going for the full prometheus/graphana stack.
I’d absolutely recommend Kubernetes (k3s/rke2) or podman quadlets. Quadlets are a lot easier to get started with, but are still very flexible.
I’d recommend against using portainer. I tried it quite recently and I did not like it at all. A lot of features are paywalled, and was overall just a frustrating experience. I’ve heard it was a lot better some years ago.
Dockge - https://github.com/louislam/dockge
Docker compose with webui and upgrade button.
I’ll second Dockge. It works alongside Docker containers and doesn’t try to shove configs into nonstandard locations and whatnot. Plus if you have multiple Docker instances, you can install Dockge on each of them and link them all together. Very handy.
Thanks, I’ll look into this
Docker Compose and CLI.
As a tinkerer, I have tried Portainer a couple of times, and another similar thing, but I end up never looking at them, and revert to just jumping into the command line. A bonus of this approach is keeping a copy of all my compose files in a repo.
If OP is being drawn to this because they want to know everything’s running, what they’re really looking for is monitoring - probably Uptime Kuma.
This is the way I figured I’d go down at first, but I’m also curious if there’s a popular solution I could manage remotely in a browser without having to ssh, for example
try NixOS
all your containers and other services will be managed through one re-usable file
if your server is >= 8GB then proxmox gives a nice interface builtin. i use it to make nixos lxc containers in which i run my containers. which does actually make sense
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you will have to spend a lot of time learning the Nix language
I’d say you shouldn’t use any system (be it nixos, ansible or even bash scripts) if you are not willing to learn it.
That said, I too find pre-made modules less useful that I initially thought when I got into nixos: unless you want to do very basic stuff, a lot of times it’s easier to just generate whatever scripts/configuration files you need directly (using one of the trivial builders in lib or writing a custom derivation) rather than learning how the corresponding nixos module works.
One could say nixos modules make easy things slightly easier, and hard things much harder (this is adapted - possibly imprecisely - from a quote on ORMs, I think by Joel Spolsky).
Those modules usually have .settings option, which maps to the config file
I’ve read a bit about portainer, but I’m still learning
I started with Portainer, and I still use it. It checks all the boxes for me. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention there are other such platforms to manage Docker containers with such as Podman, Dockage, etc. Like I said, I started with Portainer, and I know how to drive that bus, so I stuck with it.
Podman pods (or quadlets) managed by ansible.
I was using CLI exclusively for a year or so, but recently added DockMon and it’s helped with updates and at-a-glance management.
Kubernetes. For a homelab, the stripped-down k3s is fantastic and surprisingly easy to get going.
Once you’ve got Kubernetes set up, you can lean on all the many tools already out there for things like deploying complex projects (Helm) and monitoring (Prometheus/Grafana). OpenLens is a nice piece of software you can use to monitor and control your cluster too, as is k9s.
This is how I went and what I’d recommend. But that said, it’s a bit of a steep learning curve as not everything in the self hosted/home lab community comes with helm charts.
I’ve heard Portainer is pretty nice for this.
That’s what came up in my search at first. Seems legit.
