• AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
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    10 days ago

    Uhh, plant-based milks are not what you replace milk with for nutritional reasons. That’s what seeds and greens are for.

    Plant-based milks are what you replace dairy with for culinary reasons. And don’t expect it to be the same, just find what’s good in its own way.

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      10 days ago

      Oat milk is the creamiest dairy alternative for tea and coffee. It’s pretty great but does have a strong flavour that might not be appreciated by people with a more complicated palate than me.

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        Personally I prefer soy milk in my coffee vs oat milk. It’s got a subtle taste and the creaminess is closer to regular milk while only being slightly more creamy. Also goes well in overnight oats. (I’ve tried oat milk in my overnight oats, it was a bit much IMO lol)

        Barley milk is also damn good in coffee but also stupid expensive. I haven’t tried it in overnight oats though as last time I bought it it was like 4x the cost of soy milk. (I’ve only bought it once)

        But that’s the cool part, we’ve got so many options that everyone can have their preferred combo.

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          10 days ago

          Interesting. I recently tried soy milk in my coffee and it had 0 body to it at all. Very watery. Perhaps not all soy milk is the same though. I guess I need to try a few different places

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            Like, I expected everything to have a bit more structure because of the carbs, but they come out sooooooo fluffy. You’ll lose some of that silkiness, but you can get some of that back by adding a little more fat. Not too much or it’ll kinda collapse.

            When Rosa Parks’s personal documents were digitized in 2016, the fact that she used peanut butter as a fat kinda blew up on the Internet. I’m obsessed with peanut butter (and mildly allergic), so I tried this and never looked back. Combine that with oat milk, and it’s like you’ve never truly eaten pancakes before.

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        9 days ago

        The Target near me has “barista” almond milk that froths in a lovely way, so I can get foam on the top of my coffee or earl Grey tea. It’s next to the creamers. I think it has extra gum or other thickener in it.

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      10 days ago

      you missed the joke

      the claim that it’s poison isn’t serious, neither is the claim that plant milk is a cure

      it’s just a setup for the punchline

      and plant milk is what you replace dairy with for ethics reasons

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        9 days ago

        I didn’t miss the joke, I just didn’t comment on it.

        Yeah, ethics reasons, and I simply chose not to comment on that either.

        I just wanted to comment because the joke reinforces a simple misunderstanding on the nutritional side of things.

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    I feel like some conspiracy theorist when I talk about this.

    We’re 100% being fed poison, CEOs don’t even eat the shit they peddle. Everything is to make money, make you sick to sell you something to make you better. Eating the EXACT same shit in a country like Italy is worlds different, you don’t get bloated, you don’t get the same options even. I never even saw Pepsi products, probably banned. Pasta, pizza, gelato, daily, no bloat, no laziness, no negatives.

    Crazy what America allows its people to consume knowing it’s killing and making us dumber. All in the name of money. I hate this place.

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      They have pepsi in Italy. There are some differences in what is allowed in American food vs European food but none of them would explain bloating or laziness. You may have some digestive issues because I don’t get those symptoms when eating American pasta or pizza unless I eat way too much.

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        A lot of Americans cite foreign food as being “better” and note how much better they feel while traveling. The average American also probably walks 10-20x more while on a European vacation than they do at home. I don’t think it’s the food

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          “What is this witchcraft?!? I don’t feel like shit, I’m sleeping better, and I have a bunch more energy? Must be the food.” - American on vacation suddenly walking miles a day vs walking maybe 100 - 200 yards a day normally.

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          Happened to the wife and I’ve seen it a lot in videos. I think it’s how the pasta and dough is made, something with the gluten and quality.

          I don’t doubt there is Pepsi, I only saw coke, coke zero sugar, Fanta and a few others though.

          I don’t really trust ai responses, but I’m not crazy, there is a big difference in European food quality vs the shit they put in food in usa.

          There are thousands of videos on YouTube, probably more, getting into details, I can’t find the specific one I saw a few weeks ago. It felt crazy, but it’s a drastic difference.

          This is only one guys story, but I believe him being able to eat stuff he normally couldn’t and not get IBS - https://youtu.be/xvIltQicFTU

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        10 days ago

        The sugar in almost everything here would definitely account for the laziness and attention issues. Makes folks easier to control

        Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt

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      What’s funny is that in the EU Italy is one of the biggest peddlers of junk food and usually the loudest opponent to EU-wide nutrition regulations. But you’re right it’s still miles ahead of the US, especially as far as banning additives goes.

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        9 days ago

        I used it specifically because I was there in October 25, so it was a fresh experience. We ate a ton and felt little to no side effects like we’d feel in USA.

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    11 days ago

    My nuclear family group chat is discussing gut health and diet. I am very tempted to post this in there.

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    Oh not this again. Why is milk such a weird misinformation topic for so many people? If you’re lactose intolerant, don’t drink milk. But it’s just milk, not a miracle cure jfc. If your country has a crop that has a lot of calories, that’s what people consume, like rice, bread, beans, potatoes, or milk.

    Animals don’t fly in airplanes, all crops and products take energy, the dairy industry is fucked up and has a long history of shitty ethics, and all business is competitive. But, if you like milk, drink it, if you don’t, don’t. But dairy milk isn’t poison, neither is grain milk, and neither of those is evil or amazing, they’re just food.

    Eat a balanced diet and exercise and don’t smoke or vape, get 8 hours of sleep, treat your femboys well, commit arson, drink more water, take a deep breath, and if your parents aren’t pieces of shit and they’re still alive, give them a call. Everything in moderation.

    Stop being so hard on yourself. Life is too short. There is no such thing as a panacea.

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      10 days ago

      you missed the joke

      the claim that it’s poison isn’t serious, neither is the claim that plant milk is a cure

      it’s just a setup for the punchline

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        Yeah, I see that, there’s just too much bs surrounding milk in politics to not address the premise of the joke. Maybe if it was purely sarcastic and there wasn’t unironic conversation about this in this very post, I could ignore it. But there is, so it must be said.

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    Fuck. I will eventually have to buy my own pasteurization equipment, won’t I?

    Idiots. Raw milk is going to spread H5N1, which will ravage this country because there won’t be a vaccine.

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      I’m american. Born and raised (on the playground is where I spent most of my days). I do have to give it to the non-americans though, the self-centered assumptions of “this” country is out of hand. Be fair: Raw milk is gonna ravage everyone from every country.

      Also… wouldn’t pasteurization… equipment just be… a… …pot? blinks and squints, thinkingly, holographic formulas flying everywhere

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        Technically speaking, pasteurization is rendering eliminate some percentage of bacteria via temperature and time. With a pot you can boil milk, which will render it safe for a time, and also destroy a lot of nutrients and change the flavor. Pasteurization as done in a dairy is typically lower temperature for a longer time, keeping the flavor and nutrients intact.

        Because it’s not fully boiling you typically want a sealed container to keep new bacteria from getting in during the process. A pressure cooker is fine enough for home use.

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    10 days ago

    This is very close to actual MAHA thinking, except with a true MAHA adherent it would be raccoon milk instead.

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      10 days ago

      you missed the joke

      the claim that it’s poison isn’t serious, neither is the claim that plant milk is a cure

      it’s just a setup for the punchline

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        No I got it, but soy doesn’t fit the category of the joke. It’s not a remedy for milk being poisoned. Some people just want a eco friendly plant based milk. Has nothing to do with anything here