• LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
      603·
      7 days ago

      Throwing a whole group of people in there with the actions of some idiots is a tiny bit rude.

      Signed, a straight man who kind of likes not being treated as a rapist and murderer.

      Edit: In retrospect, please ignore the second sentence. It distracts from the actual argument, and me picking an arbitrary group should not effect the validity of the first sentence.

      • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        92·
        7 days ago

        chill

        no one is treating you as a rapist and murderer theyre just saying that what was mentioned (powerful people abusing vulnerable people from vulnerable groups) is mostly a straight people thing

        • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
          142·
          7 days ago

          Then let me rephrase it, because I forgot it’s the internet and people will try to misunderstand me.

          As a member of a non-specified group X, I would hate it if people would precondemn me based on thing Y, which a part of group X does more than the average population.

          I could have picked any other stereotype, I just happen to be not a woman, and of the majority ethnicity in my country. Blame my parents.

          However, based on this hypothetical, yet relatable thought experiment, saying that a group does a bad thing because some people who happen to be in that group do that bad thing more often than other people is at the very least rude.

            • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
              72·
              7 days ago

              This might be complex, but bear with me.

              If someone steals 100 euros from Alex, and someone steals 2 euros from Bob, both are victims, even though Alex lost much more.

              And it just so happens that the solution for both is exactly the same.

            • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
              42·
              7 days ago

              My bad, I thought you were arguing in good faith. easy mistake. But apparently I hate queer people now.

              The example of me being a straight man does not matter at all. I could have picked any other group. In fact, in retrospect, I probably should, because we are now arguing about straight men, when we should be arguing about how “$group is bad” is a fucked up style of thinking. The solution to a society that is oppressive to some (like homosexual women) is not applying the same rhetoric of oppression and stereotype to groups that are more likely to do that oppression (like heterosexual women).

        • mika_mika@lemmy.world
          111·
          7 days ago

          I mean, I get it’s inappropriate to be like “what about men”. It’s pretty clear they are talking about blanket judging straight women for Perry’s actions. “Not ALL straight women” - ya see?

          In my experience though, they lean towards harassing gay men over queer women. 😅