Thought something this stupid was just for shits and giggles. Then I saw this is LinkedIn and he’s a senior product manager.
Haha the joke is on the rest of us
Me working like a schlub doing idiot things like “testing” and “verification”, while this guy moves into a Sr role
Looks like a vital component of next Tesla car.
A new single AI chip controls the brakes, acceleration, and door locks:
($200/month subscription to keep it activated)
I fully believe this story.
e.g. blind
Why? Is looking at the damn thing before you pay money on manufacturing that hard?
This baffles me about vibe coders too. You’re already saving a lot of time just look at the damn code and see if there’s any glaring mistakes.
Why are we treating AI assistance like it’s all or nothing? Why can’t we just have it help a little and still use our own skills?
Because when you look you see how stupid and useless it is.
I can imagine the guy having to print this at the factory just pictures someone with schizophrenia making the board somewhere out there.
That C3 is vital to keep the voices out of the PCB.
“我们现在必须建立圈子。”
PCBs are basically designed using graphic editors. The editors all have their own standards and don’t really import pure text pass the netlist. Simply importing from one to the other is quite painful.
It’s basically trying to build a really really complicated SVG and llms struggle with simple svgs. And that’s only the Gerber, there’s also the whole schematic that needs to be done first from which the Gerber is built from.
PCB design tools are basically made to make our lives easier and avoid mistakes, but it makes it incredibly difficult for any kind of LLM, even before we hit all the intricacies involved in it.
see I get doing this in a kind of research way but then if the V1 is this bad surely this should tell you to quit
Love this. Definitely no off the shelf parts exist for “I plug this in and a light turns on” so glad to see someone is working on creating this
When you need multiple attempts to replicate something that’s existed for decades… maybe what you’re trying to do doesn’t work!
Imagine trying to vibe design something complex.
Let it be known that this is the a*whole who gave Claude access to pcb site…
ah, see here, the problem is, once again, rust. As usual. Claude probably isn’t trained on PCB like it’s trained on rust, and probably PCB doesn’t have something that validates correctness like rust, so that’s your problem. rust rust rust. this message brought to you by the Rust Defense Force.
To save our mother rust from any programmer attack
“I’ll just have it make a Hello World to validate my workflow”
“Oh no”
Big news: My physical AI slop doesn’t do anything. Amazing!
All three pins of that voltage regulator are shorted together. Not even sure how it’s possible to fuck up that badly.
Do this is ALMOST an actual thing. Seems like this guy tried to use an LLM to do something useful, lol. Meanwhile actual scientists are using actual AI to design actual conputer chips that actually perform better than their human competitors. That being said, the new chips are not “end-to-end” AI, theyre designed by AI and a human does the final touches. Theyre also highly unique, i cant find the article now but their AI designed a chip that seemed to use extra parts, i remember there was a diode and transistor that were literally completely seperated from the traces of the rest of the chip, and yet they were functional pieces and the chip wouldnt work if you removed them.
i remember there was a diode and transistor that were literally completely seperated from the traces of the rest of the chip, and yet they were functional pieces and the chip wouldnt work if you removed them.
If that was true they would be getting the Nobel in physics for discovering some incredible new quantum phenomena, it would be front-page news everywhere. I highly doubt it’s true.
Frustratingly, that article you linked doesn’t actually link to the paper. But it is in Nature Communications. That’s a respectable journal but not that prestigious, and it publishes a lot of over hyped stuff. Not that any journal doesn’t. But if they had really found new physics with AI chip design that would go to Science, Nature, or maybe PRL.
Edit: ah, I found it.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-54178-1
Chip design isn’t at all my specialty so take my opinion about this with a grain of salt. But I think it’s notable that
Prior works in nanophotonics have demonstrated the class of inverse methods for specific dielectric-based passive structures through gradient based optimizations such as adjoint method
So, there are already known algorithmic approaches to solving for these. I think it’s also notable that these are for signal transformation and antennae, relatively simple operations.
This seems like a vaguely useful result but I don’t expect it’ll be breaking any new ground any time soon.
Confidently incorrect about how fragile some circuits can be. Simple functionality is a convenient illusion we’ve beaten into various squiggles of metal. Electricity is secretly also a radio and a magnet, and even in wires it can’t know there’s nothing at the end until it gets there. Sometimes things just happen.
They’re fabricating micrometer components with a 90 nm process. That’s pretty well in the classical regime. If they’re seeing substantial tunneling at that scale it would be rather noteworthy to say the least.
It’s not tunneling, it’s capacitance. Even truly disconnected components can accidentally become a transformer.
A single diode a micrometer away from anything else is not suddenly a transformer without which a 400 um2 antenna stops working.
Nah, it wasnt anything truly revolutionary. It was just some weird impedence effect we didnt fully understand how it was utilizing. AI doesnt really produce NEW stuff, but its really good at taking advantage of physics weve already worked out. Its not going to design a NEW chip, but it can pretty easily optimize existing chips or design a “new” layout that might be more efficient.
It is a pastiche of a circuit board, more than an actual board itself
I told the pastiche making machine to make a thing and it made a pastiche of a thing instead
