• red_green_black@slrpnk.net
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    4 months ago

    Both? Sorry I just don’t see what the dig against artamis II is for? Do you really think there is nothing beneficial in getting a human to the Moon long and eventually permanent term?

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      That’s correct. I don’t.

      As long as a single person on Earth is without food, or shelter, or hope for the future, it is a fucking crime to piss away our finite resources on a barren chunk of space rock.

      The Artemis mission cost four billion dollars. If that money had been used to refund USAID it would have saved, literally, based on the estimates of casualties that will be caused by USAID’s defunding, two million lives. Two million of the world’s poorest people, now dead or dying of starvation and disease and exposure to the elements, that we could have saved for the cost of sending a handful of the most privileged people in the world on a fucking tour of the Moon.

      And it’s happening now as a fucking distraction from the casualties of the war on Iran, and I don’t even have words for how monstrous that is, or how angry I am at the people embracing this propaganda campaign as an “apolitical triumph of the human species”.

      All manned spaceflight is a waste of precious resources, but Artemis is the most repugnant, cynical, brazenly and dishonestly political waste of precious resources in my lifetime, and I am fucking older than manned spaceflight.

      So, yeah, fuck this mission, fuck the entire idea of colonizing the Moon, and fuck everybody who thinks it’s more important to colonize the Moon then heal the sick on Earth.

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        A rat done bit my sister Nell.

        (with Whitey on the Moon)

        Her face and arms began to swell.

        (and Whitey’s on the Moon)

        I can’t pay no doctor bill.

        (but Whitey’s on the Moon)

        Ten years from now I’ll be paying still.

        (while Whitey’s on the Moon)

        -“Whitey on the Moon”, Gil Scott-Heron

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        The apollo program led to tech advancements including, among many of things, fire-retardent materials, improved parachute technologies, water filtration systems and insulin pumps, each of which has directly saved lives. Not to mention solar cells technology that will be instrumental in fighting climate change.

        The moon is a big barren rock, yes. But it is one that has answers to our planets history and potentially its future. Funding scientific and engineering endeavors like Artemis is how we, as a species, advance, how we move beyond the status quo of today’s world. There are WAAAAAAAY more wasteful things we spend money on than science. And while you’re entitled to think otherwise, you’re just wrong.

        Also that you think they timed a moon mission to be a distraction for a month old war… like the original launch wasn’t planned years in advance, and it was delayed anyway. There is something to distract from every fucking week now. That doesnt mean that anything else happening is a deliberate distraction or even remotely related to it. Too cynical to function.

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    Funny how there’s only a Canadian flag next to the US Empire one (obviously due to their astronaut being present), completely ignoring the 2 Billion € European Service Module’s existence (ESM, build by ESA in Europe) which literally keeps the astronauts alive.

    I guess it’s very easy to take from others, but acknowledging them is too hard. The whole 'MURICA-dicking around in the Artemis 2 stream was vomit-inducing. I can’t put in words how much I hate that regime and their minions by now.

    That said, Cuba also has a sufficient amount of skeletons in the closet.