• FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Women are supposed to be objects to admire, and aren’t allowed to have functional clothing as a result. Didn’t you know that?

    Also, purse sales would suffer.

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      3 months ago

      Women’s pants should have cargo pockets big enough to fit any grandmother’s purse. If some of my pants pockets can go up to my elbows (not even exaggerating, it’s an embarrassing pain to fish my keys out of those pockets), then women should be able to lose their wristwatch in a cavernous pocket.

      Anecdote: Sometimes my wife carries a pair of ankle-high socks in her purse, in case we’re gonna have to take our shoes off or whatever. This sometimes requires reorganizing her bag. When she’s told me to take an extra pair of socks, of which I only have knee-high compression socks, I just match a pair, fold them, and stick them in one of my four available pockets on any of my pants. I do not have a single set of pants incapable of holding a week’s worth of knee-high compression socks.

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        3 months ago

        Oh, I absolutely agree with you. I was being super sarcastic with my above comment. Foolish cultural preconceptions hinder us all. Edit to add that cargo pants with side pockets are the bomb.

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          3 months ago

          You know what? That’s my fault. What started off as a humorous offhanded comment accidentally turned into a rant. Sorry to make you feel like I was talking at you when I was actually yelling at clouds.

          • FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca
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            3 months ago

            No worries, I understand the source of the rant, my sarcasm came from the same vein. Besides, we need to keep those clouds in check!

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    3 months ago

    Could it be because women keep buying them? I’ve never seen my mother wear pants without pockets, and when she bought a new jacket, the amount and placement of pockets was the first thing on her mind.

    Only now I realize the significance of that. But still. How hard is it to not buy pocketless apparel?

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    3 months ago

    My Ex had a pair of slacks that had “fake pockets” on it. She would complain literally every time she wore them. One day, it dawned on me that nicer pants and coats for men, sometimes had pockets sewed shut loosely to keep them looking nice in the store (i think that’s the reason anyways). So, I asked her if it was sewn shut, and it was. She was mad at me for not telling her sooner.

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    3 months ago

    The one place I want to have pockets is at the bar. I’m fine with carrying everything in a little sack, but the second I’ve been drinking I can’t keep track of things that aren’t attached to me.

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      3 months ago

      Get a nice Jean vest. I’m a dude, but I basically treat mine like it’s my purse.

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    3 months ago

    In full seriousness, one of my green lights for a relationship is someone who values functional pockets in clothing and other practicalities.

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    3 months ago

    Protip - check out trousers made for rock climbing. Good pockets, full range of motion, tough material that lasts, pretty colours :-)

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      3 months ago

      I was going to suggest hiking pants. Mine have more pockets than I know what to do with.

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            3 months ago

            I just don’t care what they think about my cargo pants or shorts. I’m going to wear them anyway.

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              3 months ago

              They are generally made from different materials. Cargo pants are heavy and trail pants are generally lighter and can be worn in the heat. They also dry much quicker. If you had to compare them to something you could claim they are closer to 80s parachute pants than the dork pants.

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                3 months ago

                That’s nice. But the materials don’t matter, you could make them out of burlap and they would still be cargo pants. It all about the design.

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    3 months ago

    I wear an elaborate holster sort of purse on my left hip that wraps around my thigh and waist. Helps out a lot.

    I generally dress in fancy and insane outfits though.

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    3 months ago

    Personally I don’t like ordering clothes online, but I did find this shop which seems to have made it its point to produce women’s pants with big pockets: https://radianjeans.com/ No clue if they’re any good, since I’m neither in the market for women’s pants nor in the US.

    It’s hard to judge from photos, but some of these show women putting their whole hand in the pockets: https://oldnavy.gap.com/shop/womens-pants-with-pockets-0aaz06b

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    3 months ago

    I once read a post by an Etsy clothes-maker complaining that pants with pockets were her worst-selling items. Maybe that’s why?

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    3 months ago

    This is, in part, why I got back into sewing. I’ve yet to encounter a garment pattern with miserly pockets, and if I ever do, I’d just modify the pattern piece before cutting the fabric.

    Bonus: pants/shorts/skirts now fit both my waist and hips at the same time, I can choose the fabric (no more poly blends!) and also the colour and silhouette (so it matches my tastes, body type, and existing wardrobe, rather than just being “on trend”).

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    3 months ago

    A lady colleague of mine was complaining about women’s clothes and lack of pockets and so I asked why. She told me it disturbs the “pants chi” or how it changes the look I guess? It’s not just pants, it’s shirts and even some jackets with fake pockets.

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    Have you ever seen the music video for Madonna’s Beautiful Stranger? It’s a tie in with…one of the Austin Powers flicks, I forget which. In it, Mike Meyers goes to a club where Madonna is performing on stage, she’s wearing this sexy form fitting black lace top and this hilariously bad pair of grey slacks that look like Dickie’s work pants, apparently complete with functioning hip pockets that bulge out from her hips like Dumbo ears.

    That’s why most commercial women’s pants don’t come with large pockets. To use large internal pockets, the garment has to fit loosely, to reach to the bottom to fish something out you have to be able to fit the width of your fist through the opening, and it’s damn near impossible to make an opening that will open large enough to admit her entire hand with room to spare that will lay flat and flattering on a woman’s hip, not while we’re in our fifth decade of tight pants on women.

    If they put tight pants with functional hip pockets on the racks, you’d try them on, look in the mirror, say “oh god no” and leave the store without buying anything.

    Women’s sweat pants? They often have similar pockets to men’s sweat pants. Sundresses have a stereotypical response to compliments: Thanks IT HAS POCKETS! It’s not going to happen in jeans or slacks though, because out of “emulate men’s fashion”, “practicality” and “be feminine and pretty” you get to pick any two.

    Emulate men’s fashion + practicality = Buy cargo jeans from the men’s department; you’ll get used to the room in the crotch and you’ll never use that little leather thing you’re supposed to clip a tape measure to but you can fit an entire book in each hip pocket.

    Emulate men’s fashion + be feminine and pretty = Apple bottom jeans and boots with the fur. The design of women’s work jeans originally had the zipper or buttons at the hip rather than the front, the typical pattern seen today is strong enough for a man, ruined to look good on a woman.

    be feminine and pretty + practicality = that sundress WITH POCKETS! or some other such clothing designed specifically for women in mind, which hasn’t been a politically popular idea in living memory at least not in the West.

    • mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      Tbf, as a woman who both wants pockets and also really does not care for constricting clothing, I would fucking love JNCO type shit to make a comeback (I realize the literal brand still exists but I ain’t paying $150+ for a single pair of jeans).

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        You could get close to that look by buying a pair of men’s Wrangler relaxed fit cargo jeans 1 waist size larger than you need and then take the waist in 2 inches. For some reason they’ve been making the same style of cargo pant since at least the 2000s, they make that same pattern from ripstop or khaki twill but the fit isn’t as loose as the denim variant. Might not be quite as severe as vintage JNCOs but you’ll have the desired effect.

        Just looking in the women’s side of Wrangler’s website, they’re apparently leaning into the “cowboy” aesthetic, including a “cowboy barrel jean” which seems to have two characteristics: 1. formlessly baggy fit below the belt loops though with no utility features whatsoever, and 2. fell seams down the front and back. So in addition to the in and out seams, there’s front and back seams too, which must be tremendously comfy to sit down in.

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      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsh0TfIKhoE

      That’s the video and I don’t even see the pockets. Though maybe I’m a weirdo because I find women in functional or baggy clothing sexy, so I was actually hoping it was more obvious like you said (though she’s still hot).

      I’m not sure exactly what it is, maybe appreciating the attitude of wanting to dress for comfort and functionality rather than to impress others. I do find the attitude/insecurity behind wanting to get vanity surgeries very unattractive (especially becauase so many of those surgeries put them in the uncanny valley rather than make them look better), so that could be it.

      So I say be yourself when picking clothes. If you want pockets, get pockets and then as a bonus you might attract someone who thinks it’s hot that you picked pants that you like instead of what some parts of society tell you you should wear. Though I might be biased lol.