Notice there is only 1 full headline (from /r/NoStupidQuestions) visible, it doesn’t even show the full post. There are 3 of those “trending” boxes but only 2 of those even fit their headlines because they are like 3 words long, they cut off anything longer including the description
I originally became addicted to Reddit because of how streamlined it was to skim dozens of headlines and pick from lots of content, seems they have decided content is not something they want to provide anymore :/
Wow that’s pretty horrible.
It’s amazing what you miss due to 10 years of browsing with RIF and RES as mandatory installs
“miss”
Digg redesign vibes
That was my first thought as well
The day that digg launched that new design was the last day I ever logged into that site. Why do people fuck up things that work?
Things that work aren’t profitable (enough). A thing that works is good for expanding customer base. A thing that almost works is good for profit per customer base. The thing is… A thing that works and is sustainable to maintain provides the most long term profits. There’s no legal requirement a company grow in scope, but most investors (both in small and large companies) see that as the only way. Reddit has been operating on an unsustainable business model. Their core feature set is simple. Their userbase was loyal, and willing to pay for Reddit gold to directly keep the website running. The holes in their sustainability were a huge staff to develop features to grow their customer base despite no one wanting or asking for those features, a terrible ad model that left money on the table by not putting ads where they’d have the most effect (why did I always get Ford ads on r/FuckCars, never Taco Bell ads on r/ShittyFoodPorn, no small online stationary shops on r/FountainPens?) and not returning ads in API calls, and finally an API model that went from free to impossible to justify overnight. But no one on the board of directors is interested in a business that consistently makes money over the long term. They want to make as much money as possible all in one go.
Let me ask you this. Which is better? To run a small coffee roaster that employs 8 people and serves coffee through one physical shop and one online store front to a loyal fan base by serving a high quality product in small batches, or to be massive coffee company, shadowed in scale only by Starbucks and Peets, but going into bankruptcy because you can’t keep up with Starbucks and Peets? I’d take the consistent sustainable business every time, but too many people want to be the big winner with the bankrupt company, and the result is the small investors, the ones who bought into the big coffee company, or Reddit, end up holding the bag while the people who took their money deploy their golden parachutes
Designers want to get promoted, or get good bonuses for having impact. Product Managers are similarly incentivized to make changes, to improve some metric that they believe helps their business. If these structures exist, and the people making changes don’t understand what the users want, or their incentives are misaligned… it’s inevitable
They had an impact alright.
This makes me think of Microsoft. I get the impression it’s a software and technology company run by suits who are completely detached from end users and every decision is made purely from pie charts, analytics with no nuances included and designers itching to be promoted whispering in their ear.
So many things that worked perfectly - things people have learned where they are and how to use them for decades get changed for apparently no other reason than just to change them and a constant push to redesign everything into a path towards using one of their new services that already has better existing external services people were quite happy using.
Like if your product is good and works don’t start a new product then start changing the original product solely to integrate the new product. That’s bad for the existing users and customers.
It just seems like a constant thing with them that always leads back to squeezing more data and money out of users at the detriment to everything else then gaslighting users by using phrases like “improved user experience”
I actually just scrolled down some more after writing all this and there’s a good comment with some of they whys on what I was saying
Why do people fuck up things that work?
Depends on what you mean by “work”. If by “work” you mean is enjoyable to use, I understand. If by “work” you mean sustains a business, then no.
It obviously is a sustainable business. What they want to do is fatten the cow before slaughter
I think Reddit doesn’t realize that what made their UI so appealing was precisely that it felt really functional and bare bones, like Craigslist still does or Google used to. As if it was designed by nerds who just wanted the most functional site. It makes it seem more trustworthy and neutral, less monetized.
This redesign looks painfully corporate.
Topics on the side. “Gaming, Sports, Business, Crypto…” Reddit trying really hard to pretend it’s not just around for porn and memes. Also, crypto lol. Tech bro a little harder, spez.
And celeb gossips.
Sigh.
Dude idk crypto was fucking DROWNING r/all for a long time, maybe still is I eventually blocked it, so I get why they added it. And I think the type of person who would stick around on reddit or start now would still be into/interested in starting crypto.
I hope it is obvious that is not a compliment.
I basically blocked every single crypto community. But around the time of the GameStop bullshit, a LOT more of them started cropping up. I thought I was safe, then two days later another one pops up. And it was always the same non-discussion bullshit.
Worse than a scam, crypto is a cult.
It’s the bro MLM
no you’re thinking of football (either one)
r/buttcoin, which basically exists to shine a light on all the crypto shenanigans has more real person engagement that all the bot infested crypto subs
Yeah, that really feels like there is a huge disconnect with their core user-base 🤦🏻♂️
I think when companies that originally offered something unique and desirable get large enough, they necessarily lose touch with what made them indispensable. Dollar signs lead to a notion of growth that summons a many-tentacled cocaine-caked Moloch of feature creep, tech bandwagon hopping, information siloing, data harvesting, advertiser worshiping, and corporate evil that is, at best, indifferent to user experience, but more typically actively antagonistic to it.
I used RIF for the longest time and I just can’t with the official app. It’s already awful and if that’s what the website looks like now then the app will have a worse UI soon.
At first glance I thought it was youtube.
Is the old.reddit.com still usable or is that fucked up too?
old.reddit.com is still kickin it. No talk I’ve heard of to get rid of it yet. The second it’s gone I’m gone.
In case you didn’t know and for everyone else that prefers the old UI there is a clone for lemmy.
https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym
lemmy.world has it installed at https://old.lemmy.world. The creator has it running at https://mlmym.org/ for other instances that don’t have it installed.
Wow, I never knew that was a thing! Old Reddit style Lemmy needs to be brought up more.
Bro what in the msn.com is this
Hahaha
The fact that crypto is listed on the side makes me wanna bump my head on the wall.
The whole thing in general looks like a mobile app stretched to fit on a monitor. I mean, that’s how most websites are in 2023.
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That’s not a mobile first principal. Mobile first design and development includes progressive enhancement as the viewport grows. You can make a website that operates perfectly on mobile and desktop. These fucks just don’t actually adhere to any philosophies or standards. Don’t blame mobile first, which is a brilliant approach, for the shortcomings of a dumb-ass company like Reddit.
It’s called “responsive design” i think. I played around with it a bit when learning html years ago. You can get free website templates that have this cooked in - like, you don’t need to code anything. Seems easy to do and pretty much an industry standard now. Pretty weird that reddit would choose a trashy option instead.
Responsive design is approach you can use as part of your mobile first development. There are others, but responsive is a good one.
So much white space…so many frames…so much waste…I can’t look away…it’s whispering to me …
Mandatory Website Obesity Crisis mention, TL;DR:
Some kind of brain parasite infected designers back when the iPad came out, and they haven’t recovered. Everything now has to look like a touchscreen.
My gripe with this design aesthetic is the loss of information density. I’m an adult human being sitting at a large display, with a mouse and keyboard. I deserve better. Not every interface should be designed for someone surfing the web from their toilet.
It’s like we woke up one morning in 2008 to find that our Lego had all turned to Duplo. Sites that used to show useful data now look like cartoons. Interface elements are big and chunky. Any hint of complexity has been pushed deep into some sub-hamburger. Sites target novice users on touchscreens at everyone else’s expense.
I shouldn’t need sled dogs and pemmican to navigate your visual design.
A lot of apps are also just web wrappers for a mobile site… It’s obvious with some apps, others are a bit harder to see, but it’s there.
Low effort app developing.
funnily enough, it literally fucking is, this was originaly their mobile site.
Hard to build a good looking website with just 2000 employees
Legit thought you were on YouTube.
It looks like a news site from 2012, and it actually looks like it’s trying to imitate digg lol
Seriously me too!! I was paying more attention to the TV show I was watching and was wondering what was so remarkable about the same old YouTube layout. I had to wait for it to end to really look at the picture DAYUMN it looks like YouTube. Wtf reddit what a weird thing to copy
Almost like when they replaced the reddit app with one that looked just like Instagram. Reddit has no originality I guess.
So stop using it. Ffs, this place circle jerks over how bad that place is, and then you dumb mother fuckers keep going back. Move on already.
Eh. it’s one thing always talking about Reddit in more general communities, but this is a Reddit community.
What? I will always use reddit as long as it has good content that I can’t find elsewhere. Still spend lots of time here to help Lemmy grow and make it eventually get better than reddit.
Oh, believe me, my usage has dropped by around 95%
I absolutely thought this was YouTube.
Wtf.
I was thinking Yahoo
O_o
that looks like youtube. is that how non old.reddit looks like?
it’s facebook….
You don’t show full posts because then your team gets to count an ‘active’ user when people click to expand.
Metrics becoming the goal 101 and active user growth is important to get investors to hold the bag for your VCs. Every action right now, that the VC money is getting scarce is aimed at making Reddit look like a profitable target for street investors so your VCs can cash out. Doesn’t matter if what you do isn’t sustainable, because you are the VCs bitch now and they want their payout before you crash and burn.
JFC that’s hilariously hideous. Well done spez you fucking wank stain
Remember when they hid NSFW content from r/all and they said they would add a new filter that did contain the content?
Now you can’t even select r/all from the drop down menu on their app. You have to open the sidebar, scroll all the way to the bottom, then select it. No way of setting it as the default. Classic algorithm push for advertisers.
Tbf r/all sucks balls and I don’t go there anymore. I come here.
That’s sucks. Left after 10 years. I almost always browsed /all and just set up filters. Tons of filters.
I miss the random porn sprinkled in with my news and memes.
What the ever-living fuck is this bullshit? I’m glad I abandoned Reddit before they started this bullshit.
At least Old Reddit is still available. Right? I think? But for how long?
It is available, for now. I refuse to use reddit’s terrible mobile app, so when they kill old.reddit.com I’ll be gone for good.
Only a matter of time before they squash that, it has very little ads.
It is still available
For now…
