Donald Trump erupted at the United Kingdom Tuesday morning over its refusal to join the United States in its war against Iran, issuing the European nation a notice that the United States would no longer be offering it “help.”

“All of those countries that can’t get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you: Number 1, buy from the U.S., we have plenty, and Number 2, build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT,” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social.

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    Meanwhile the UK is hosting USA bombers. Grow a pair - kick them out and close airspace until they show some gratitude.

    European nation

    Not if some of them can help it.

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      As with most developed “democracies”, the UK’s political class are too busy cashing the cheques of their corporate overlords to display any actual morals or virtue. They are bottom-feeders who only know how to bottom-feed.

      e.g. opposing genocide is terrorism!

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    I’m beginning to think the hardest job in the entire world is Secret Service Agent. I mean, c’mon, millions of lives are at risk, you’re armed, and he’s right there. Instant hero. /s

    Edit: forgot /s. Obviously.

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      Because it went great for the Roman Empire when the Praetorian Guard were the ones choosing the Emperor. You don’t really want to open that door.

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        There’s a difference between a military coup and a rogue secret service agent killing the fuck and turning himself in.

        He’d sacrifice his life and be arrested and tried, he’d have Luigi level fanfare (though Luigi didn’t do it, obviously) and a clear conscious to help him sleep better at night in prison.

        Being not a military coup, it might actually trigger the violent stage of the arguably ongoing civil war, Vance declares martial law and his children and top supporters start calling for the execution of everyone who ever condemned him as retribution.

        The current collapse of the US empire is fast, but it sure as fuck can accelerate. People who think Trump dying solves all problems are heavily over indexing on him as the singular bad guy, he’s just a loud symptom of a nasty disease.

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          There’s a lot of rot, but they’ve been depending on a cluster of personality. Those often collapse when the personality dies without a sucessor with popular support, which requires the cult leader to groom the public to their sucessor.

          The thing with Trump is he has too much ego for that, and Vance doesn’t have the loyalty of the MAGA militant.

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            Right, which is why they would kick it up a 100 noches. Once he’s gone, they’ll use everything in their power to remain in power, they won’t just go away silently.

            Vance doesn’t have the loyalty, which is why Trump’s kids will rile them up on the idea of revenge, they won’t be fighting for cancer, they’ll be fighting for Trump “alongside” Vance.

            Democrats will condemn the violence of the assassin, they’ll call for unity and give long eulogies for Trump, they’ll say it’s time to unite and denounce violence. Slowly, Vance will become the new figure head, or be replaced through a coup if unable, but the power won’t change. The coup won’t come from opposition, it’ll come from within.

            History gives us plenty of cases where killing the strongman did not end the system. Caesar’s murder helped trigger civil war and an “avenge the leader” politics. https://www.history.com/articles/julius-caesar-assassination-fall-roman-republic

            Park Chung-hee’s assassination opened a succession crisis that Chun Doo-hwan used for an internal coup under martial law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_South_Korean_coup_d'état

            Trujillo’s killing did not kill the machine, his family and loyalists tried to preserve it amid chaos. Indira Gandhi’s assassination becme a pretext for mass revenge on a broader population. https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v05mSupp/dr_d21

            So yes, cult regimes are vulnerable when the central personality dies, but that vulnerability often shows up first as repression, martyrdom, and a fight inside the ruling group, not a clean collapse.

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            I’d expect this will escalate quickly once Vance takes power. He doesn’t have the car salesman personality Trump has, and I don’t think he’ll maintain the MAGA following but Peter Thiel put him there for a reason. Vance will have to speed it up.

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        I mean… the first instance of that was replacing Caligula with Claudius. It just kinda went south after that.

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            Claudius wasn’t 2nd in command. He was way down the list.

            And the first thing he did as emperor was execute some of the Praetorians for being overzealous when cleaning house.

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      I used to think that they are defending the office, rather than the individual. And that is the honorable thing to do regardless of the person. But when you see them assisting that person to stage an assasination, I realised they are in the cult too.

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      Turn the US into an authoritarian empire, and you risk turning the Praetorians into something similar to the Roman ones…

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    This rant is extra ignorant with a cherry on top.

    The UK already gets most of its oil from the US and Norway (sauce)

    The Orange Child Rapist apparently did not know oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world. I guess he figured if the USA did not get oil from Iran, US Oil was not going up in price?

    What an embarrassment of a country to have this pustule of a person as president (elected twice!)

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      oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world.

      The art of the deal guy didn’t understand opportunism in pricing? If they’re charging more, we can charge more.

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    All friendships burned, all choices burning themselves, digging their own grave deeper and deeper. Total collapse is inevitable.

    Remember all those Hollywood productions about post apocalypse worlds, only showing the US? I always wondered how the rest of the world would be. I guess just normal, it’s just the US being a post apocalypse hell hole.

    And Trump did all of that just to try to distract everyone from him being a pedo sex offender buddy of Epstein.

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      Well that, and the footage they got of him decades ago in Moscow when he tried to get his businesses up over there. Golden showers and whatnot they say. By now it should be obvious to everyone what his assignment is: Final blow in the divide and conquer scheme that has been running in US since the soviet days. Social media and of course China joining the cause behind the curtains really gave this campaign a big boost.

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        Sounds like AfD has their marching orders from Putin as well. Trump has created a zeitgeist that would benefit the German far right and make in roads to dismantling NATO in short order.

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        Yeah of course! The timing with the Epstein files is just a coincidence. Just like all the other things he did when the issue of the Epstein files rose up.

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    I’m not saying the system was good (far, far from it) but this asshole walked into office and started dismantling 100 years of economic diplomacy and peace through trade. There’s no way you can tell me he isn’t a useful idiot for Russia.

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    build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT

    Do it yourself idiot! 🤮 🤡

    But USA can’t, and if they try they will just be further humiliated.
    Maybe Trump thinks the military is refusing his orders, so he wants UK to do it for him instead.
    The man is insane and has dementia on top of that. Congratulations to the Americans that elected him, you are the laughing stock of the world, especially those that want to harm USA.

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    Once again the “most powerful military on earth” has to beg for help to defeat a single rogue state, and throws a tantrum when they don’t get it.

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    the U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore

    They weren’t helping anyone else before.

    At best, they were helping themselves (mostly) without actively interfering with others ability to do the same.

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      No dispute on all the many many harms done or anything in that vein, I’ll never defend the US for countless things.

      BUT there was some arguably good, compassionate work done that was effectively dismantled recently, and we shouldn’t lose that detail.

      We should remember that the federal govt for a country this huge can never be a monolith (and I do also mean that encouragingly, moving forward…).

      We should remember also, that many quiet, gentle people who fundamentally deeply dislike the lived experience of the rat-race of capitalism - paradoxically find themselves seeking the stability and straightforward “work toward an anodyne but useful purpose” offered by many federal government sub-branch-agency-bureau whatevers. Too many to list in my already long comment, that function(ed) both as jobs programs, but also ways that decent Americans end up - by dint of sheer math - placing a very different set of moral values and actions into the broader US govt conduct.

      Not a thing to give up quietly, but of course the bigger disasters (again, no dispute, there are many, and probably engineered to be such) will necessarily consume all oxygen in the room, so to speak.

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          Lol cool drive-by from an intentionally uncharitable read of what I said. “The plus side”?

          Here’s what I think - I think you don’t have the first clue what I was talking about in specific, like the jobs and programs canceled, what they were, what they did. I think you squinted and saw the barest seed of pro-US sentiment (not really there) and took the opportunity to lob some very boring and poorly-constructed snark.

          If you have an actual point to make, feel free of course. That option was already there for you though and you chose not to take it, so I don’t have high hopes.

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    Uhm…turns out…the green transition was a core security policy. That is why maga, russia, gulf countries were against it…

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    What is a king if his crown is worthless? Not a man of the people, but surrounded by cultists. Praised by the loudest, loved by the thoughtless. Crowned not by honor, but by lies that were endless.

    His walls crumble as whispers grow louder, Causing once-shaking hands to grip blades ever prouder. The throne he once clutched, now colder than stone, His fate sealed by the seeds of ruin he’d sown.

    He feasts while his kingdom is left to rot, Drunk on his power yet blind to the plot. A puppet on strings, now tangled and caught. If he ends up dead, then that is his lot.

    The crown on his head, a mockery now, A hollow gold band on a sweat-ridden brow. No glory remains, no trumpets resound, Only silence and ash on the burning ground.

    Betrayed not by foes but those he called his closest friends,

    Their daggers ensuring his rule meets its end. No prayers are whispered, no mourners will weep, For kings who sow torment shall fall just as deep.

    When he ends up dead, the people have spoken, A crown polished with falsehood is a crown that is broken. And a kingdom built on cruelty is one which ends with dread,

    The crown on his corpse was always a crown of the dead.

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    *‘Go get your own oil!’ Trump tells UK the US won’t ‘help you anymore’ in latest furious rant

    What a boorish sack of shit, Jesus Christ, dealing with that man on a daily basis must be fucking exhausting.

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      dealing with that man on a daily basis must be fucking exhausting.

      Yes, but only for people with functioning brains

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        hey, I’m a certified idiot and even I can’t take any more of this! I have these primal instincts of trying to stay alive and reproduce, and I find that my chances at both are highly correlated with being decent to the other members of my race (humans, I mean). No brain, no problem!

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          … it’s a sliding scale

          You and I are likely on the same category, yet compared to MAGA, we are basically geniuses

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    At least the ruling class isn’t hiding behind diplomacy anymore while they rape and pillage the world. They are showing their true colors in their political and economic wars and in their personal behaviors (Epstein).