Let’s just declare victory after losing!

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    “The full reopening of the Strait is something the Administration is working towards, but the core objectives of the operation have been clearly defined for the American people by the Commander in Chief,” Leavitt said.

    No the fuck they haven’t. He doesn’t even know himself other than whatever Israel said to do, otherwise they’ll release the videos of him raping children.

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      Sure they have - Baby gets what Baby wants. If baby wants the objectives of a war to be Iran sends him a cool fire truck to play with, that’s how he defines “winning” the war that day.

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      You know, I’m not even sure I’ve heard a straight line about what exactly they’re trying to do and what precipitated starting the war.

      There’s been talk about wanting regime change and halting the Iranian nuclear program. But both of those things have been around for what, like 20 years? And the nuclear deal was being worked out over a decade age before trump threw a fit and ripped it up.

      Most wars have a very clear “they did this to us so we have to do this to them in order to secure… blah blah blah.” But with Iran we didn’t really get that. I just woke up one day and the headlines were “surprise, he started another war in the Middle East, checkout this new TikTok trend”

      At least bush had the intelligence to lie about WMDs. Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

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        Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

        I don’t think it’s just because “brown people bad”. I think his goal is to crash the global economy so he and his buddies (controllers) such as Miller, Vought, Kevin Roberts, Thiel, Andreeson, Musk, aka the technofascists (a la Curtis Yarvin), can get their hands in the system from the ground up to extract even more value from everyone and further control pretty much all of society.

        It really sounds crazy, but they are very vocal about it. Please read, save, and share this info from vcinfodocs.

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      When those videos hit the web, everyone will know the people who supported him. We will never let them forget, nor will we let others be ignorant of what they did.

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    If you spend billions and end up with that path blocked, I don’t think you can say you “won”.

    Of course you can finish the war capitulating or losing too.

    I’m starting to think either Trump or his acolytes don’t really think.

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    Leavitt signaled that Trump may achieve those objectives by mid-April. “The Pentagon has always stated four to six weeks as an estimated timeline for Operation Epic Fury,” Leavitt said in the White House briefing room. “We’re on day 30 today—you do the math.”

    My math says it’s taking y’all a lot longer than you fooled yourselves into thinking.

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      Trump already has lost. There’s a Khomeni in charge of the country who is even more hardline than the last with a long queue of replacements should he get killed, they’ve not surrendered, they’re not negotiating and they’re only letting through ships they choose to. They’re still firing missiles at every Arab nation with a US base in it as well as at Israel. They’re still selling their oil. And now the Iran supported Houtis in Yemen have kicked off too, also lobbing missiles at Israel and threatening closing off the Bab al Mandab Strait which is the access to the Red Sea that’ll cut off access to the western oil pipelines Saudi Arabia has.

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        Hijacking comment to point out that both posters of negative scored comments are 12-13 days old and one of them has a gibberish username. Downvote and move on.

        Edit: Cry more, payroll shills.

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      Then may I ask what is exactly?

      since Nixon the main US indutsrty is its war machine.

      Fast intercity trians ? no, high quality public tranport ? no ? healthcare for all ? no. These were all discarded for the military industrial machince. Everything falls into place when you accept that. its noy 4D chess, the entire point of this is to expend munitions, that’s it. Trillions more $ now needed.

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    Is Trump going to say that Iran agreed to his terms without any proof? Is he going to bomb them again for not respecting the terms they agreed to in his mind?

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      Hes already done those. The next step is to impose his own blockade on the straight, and claim it doesnt matter what Iran does, America closed the straight until HIS demands are met!

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    Somehow whatever he can’t do, or doesn’t benefit him, magically doesn’t matter! It’s like a superpower!

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    The guy throwing military parades for himself capitulates and leaves Europe to clean up the mess. Much Wow

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      Ending any war isn’t their goal. We are the single largest arms manufacturer and seller on the planet. Our economy is war. This whole machine supports our pillaging and our governments priority is spending tax dollars for weapons from their clubs companies, then they turn around to the construction side of the club and give their friends contracts to repair everything they destroyed. Wait 20 years and rinse and repeat.

      Mass murder for profit is our country’s legacy.

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    “Great progress has been made ​but, if for any reason a deal is ⁠not shortly reached, which it probably will be, ​and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately ‘Open for ​Business,’ we will conclude our lovely ‘stay’ in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil ​Wells and Kharg Island,” Trump wrote in a ​social media post.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-again-warns-iran-open-strait-hormuz-2026-03-30/

    Hell of a reaction to something that is not vital.

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    TACO Trump Tuesday strikes again. Trump makes threats, those he’s threatening laugh at him, mock him and ignore the deadline, Trump chickens out and tries to make up something else to hide the fact he’s failed.

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      Taco is the dumbest shit I think I’ve seen being pushed as a nick name for him. It’s the cringest most forced bot phrase, of the last decade. I don’t think I can handle being on the planet and reading this garbage anymore.

      Like do people think it’s clever, saying the same thing over and over and over and seeing it over and over and over. Is it supposed to be funny?

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        It’s a great indicator that someone is serially online and rarely talks to others. At one of the protests I went to I brought a TACO themed sign and nobody got it. I had to answer “what does that mean?” sooo many times.

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          Well, why did you do it?

          What are you saying he’s backing out of? do you want him to follow through on all the weird shit he says? Would that be better to you?

          It sounds like it’s a far right psyop- “the libs are calling you a weak scared chicken wimp, show them you’re not.” Is the point to antagonize the old demented man?

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            It is a fact. He never follows through. It’s not a message for him, he literally doesn’t think about what other people say because he’s a narcissist. It’s a message for all the MAGA dorks who think they are so tough with a tough guy leader. It’s pointing out just how weak and pathetic they truly are when challenged in any way.

            As for why I made the sign, I’ve made a lot of signs and I only have so many ideas lol.

            Edit: also I left out a part of the story because I forgot. There was one person who clearly did get the message, and it was a scared little snowflake who rolled up all his windows in his emotional support truck even though he was smoking because he was scared while stopped at a red light next to some people with signs. He stared angrily at me specifically thinking he was being intimidating. I laughed at him and it made him big mad. So I guess in a way the sign worked.

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            I think it’s more a finance bro psyop… “Don’t worry about the shit he’s doing, just keep investing, he’ll give up anyway”

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        Pointing out that Trump has no conviction to follow through on anything (Trump Always Chickens Out: TACO) and the irony that’s it’s a taco, from the cuisine of his favorite hated minority, makes it a perfect nickname.

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          Either a psyop to antagonize the pedo, or a bougi put of touch 70 year old from New Hampshire came up with it. Regardless it’s cringe.

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    He really doesnt understand the global markets are interconnected and prices rising on inputs to American products due to logistics costs are the least of our worries.

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    Operation taco teusday is a great success. We all agree. Congrats everyone. Wheres that George Bush “Mission Accomplished!” banner? Now that we’ve won lets get our fearsome ICE agents to cover our military’s retreat. *cough I mean victorious tactical redeployment back to the homeland of freedom.

    ICE already have a full set of tactical military gear anyway, and punisher patches and everything. They just need some rubber rafts and a push into the strait to finish the Iranians off. They did so well at the airports, its time to unleash their epic fury. No rules of engagement!