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“This (law) is the most significant rollback of refugee rights in Canada in over a decade,” said Adam Sadinsky of the Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers. “It’s disappointing that Canada has joined other countries in a race to the bottom in terms of protection of rights for migrants and vulnerable people.”

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    Shameful. Seeking asylum is a fundamental human right under Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that Canada has voted for and signed. This supposed centrist government is literally trampling on the fundamental human rights and on Canada’s own treaty obligations.

    Shame shame shame shame on the minority Liberal government for proposing it and for any party that enables them to pass it.

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    The number of new refugee claims Canada receives each year has surged in the last decade from about 16,000 to 190,000 in 2024, though it dropped significantly to 107,800 last year.

    I know a lot of people are lamenting the change, but I can’t help but read this line above from the article, and think about the findings from the recent auditor general’s report related to Student Visa Frauds. The AG report noted that Canada’s government had capacity to investigate 2000 fraud cases per year – but that it received around 75000 such allegations per year.

    A huge gap between how people ‘wish’ the country worked/functioned on that front, and the reality.

    With a surge of more than 10x in a short period, our government is overwhelmed on this front. Just like our healthcare system is overwhelmed – I’ve had relatives on wait lists for specialists for years at this point. Pretty much all of Canada’s gov functions seem incapable of keeping up, even with bloated public servant numbers (under Trudeau, they hit a record of like 22% of working people working for public sector, iirc).

    We need immigration of all sorts, but it needs to be managed at a level we can handle as a country. If our government can’t even come close to processing their basic paperwork in a timely manner, it’d be crazy to think our other systems that require a whole lot more than pushing a button/admin paperwork, such as healthcare and housing, would be able to keep up with the increased demand. Putting in stricter conditions for refugee claims, given that the system is likely overwhelmed by the volume, makes practical sense.

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      At the risk of sounding like a tech bro…

      I work for one of the largest banks in the world. The organizational inefficiency… incompetence… is staggering. That’s a for profit hyper-capitalist enterprise. I used to wonder why banks keep needing bailouts. I don’t wonder any more.

      I don’t want the government run like a business for 2 reasons:

      1. governments are to provide services, not to make profit

      2. BUISINESSES aren’t even run well.

      The operational waste, I can only imagine is staggering. I’d love it if actually smart people actually made improvements. Not just fucking McKinsey saying “fire 10% of people and necessity will breed efficiency”

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        What banks in Canada received bailouts, exactly? Even during the 2008 collapse, no bailouts, no small FIs (credit unions) went under.

        I think you’re thinking of America.

        And in this case, my comment wasn’t about op ex or efficiencies specifically. It’s just a blunt statement that the canadian government can’t handle all the immigration, nor can canadian systems or infrastructure. It’s all crumbling as a result of stupid levels of immigration – which accounts for practically 100% of our population gains for the past however many years. Housing prices fluctuate based on immigration levels – housing costs have been going down since 2024 (before trump and the recent nonsense), the same time that they put harder caps on immigration. If you look at a comparison between the real housing price index and our immigration levels over the past two decades, the spikes and dips match up pretty well.

        People unquestionably in favour of immigration don’t look at what it does to the sustainability and stability of existing infrastructure/ecosystems. Introduce an influx of hundreds of thousands of wolves to a pasture, and it doesn’t matter how efficient the 2000 worker sheep may be, they’re all fucked. You can’t instantly create hundreds of thousands of sheep to meet the new demand for sheep from the hundreds of thousand of wolves. Our government can’t manage to do basic checks on even the reported abuses, so it really isn’t any surprise that we have shit like international gang extortion rings in BC these days.

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            And you’re posting in a thread about Canada. We ain’t the USA’s 51st state, so kindly fuck off.

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              Bro, I’m fairly certain this dude lives in Calgary. You can work for a US company in Canada, chill the fuck out

              • wampus@lemmy.ca
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                Nah. Fuck that. We aren’t America, and if he’s working for an American company/supporting a fascist regime that’s intent on annexing/destroying Canada, he can fuck off too. And he can fuck all the way off if he’s busy trying to say anything about Canadian stuff, by using American failures as an example, because we aren’t America, despite what some shitheads in Alberta seem to want.

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                  I genuinely don’t think I’ve ever gotten such an unhinged angry response after I’ve criticized capitalism and spoken support for strengthening public services.

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      I can directly speak to the overwhelmed healthcare point. Conservative governments have consistently and deliberately underfunded and hamstrung healthcare in several provinces to make it easier to push for privatization. I have been in some of the meetings and heard it firsthand.

      I was even in one meeting during covid where they planeed to announce creating a new long term care facility while explicitly telling everyone not to mention they were also closing two others.

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        Yeah, those darn conservatives and their meddling during covid. It’s like they didn’t even realise the liberals were in power.

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      Bullshit. The government is wasting millions on defense, on oil and gas tax exemptions and subsidies, and on a whole host of other wasteful and pointless programs to benefit the capitalist class. Seeking asylum is a fundamental human right under article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. If claims have gone up, 10 times, hire and train more staff to handle them. There are communities in the Maritimes with staggering levels of unemployment, and the Trump tarifs are making us shed jobs. So the government could at the same time uphold Canada’s moral standing AND give employment to Canadians.

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    I feel terrible for the people who were promised refugee status and now are thrown to the wayside. Why does this have to be retroactive? Is it really so important to ditch the last 6 months’ refugees?

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        “100k of them” very humanizing language. “Most of the apps were fraudulent” I guess innocent until proven guilty doesn’t apply to “them”

        God Lemmy.ca is turning into a neo-fascist shithole like /r/canada. What a shame

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          99% of the comments here are against this, don’t let one dumbass everyone down votes make you think he’s the majority

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          something tells me you got kicked of reddit for a good reason jumping to such rhetoric. also “them” because male, female. wouldn’t want to misgender anybody now~

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    Most of the people seeking asylum are coming from places where U.S (and those that supported them, like Canada) are directly responsible for the economic instability. The civil wars. The dictators and corrupt governments that these people are fleeing from.

    Why do they flee to other countries ?

    Because we have a strong hand in creating chaos in theirs. Yet we deny them a place to live in peace.

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    The behavior of the liberals over the past decade or so made me wonder how and why did anyone think of liberals as being ‘soft’. These guys have hearts of stone.

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      It’s because what happened in the US is happening here. Both major parties are owned by the rich ruling class. We have two right-wing parties and neither of them care for actual people.

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      Stone? Whatever their hearts are, it’s something capable of being rotten. I just don’t understand why we thought electing the party that cancelled electoral reform, specifically because they’d lose if we had a real say, would actually give a shit about us. People get real aggressive with their speculation on what the NDP is and isn’t capable of but the Liberals keep showing us who they are those same people keep voting for them.

      Embarrassing.