How is it any people cannot put themselves in that place with imagining? Even animals could identify with what would not be desirable. Humans should have the sensibility to know they would not want what the animals being used are put through, we can likewise choose to not have anything to do with that, and we can already find out ourselves that there are ways to be very healthy this way without products from animals. And the same amount of use of resources for it and contribution to damage to environments with loss of species does not need to be continued then. https://healthyaging.emory.edu/could-eating-30-plants-a-week-be-the-answer-to-better-health/

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    I don’t enjoy the idea of killing for food, but I genuinely gag when I eat most veggies.

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      I found that I had to kind of ‘reset’ my diet for me to like veggies. About a year ago, I ate much more veggies for like a month and now I like them a lot. Before, I struggled to eat a cucumber in a week, now I regularly eat an entire cucumber for one meal.

      There’s some things to learn, e.g.:

      • Soy sauce kicks up their taste.
      • Adding chili allows combining multiple kinds of veggies.

      But I believe, the biggest change is the microbiota in your gut. They can chat with your brain. And if you’ve cultivated microbiota that eat food A, then if you switch to food B, they will tell you to fuck off. But if you keep it up for a few weeks, the old microbiota will decline and new microbiota that enjoy food B will join the party.

      I’m now one of those nerds that has to have veggies for almost every other meal, otherwise I will see my mood go down, and I do think that’s the microbiota controlling my brain.


      Having said all that, I should perhaps add that I was already vegan before that. Yes, I was vegan and did not really like veggies.
      You can do the veganisms without eating particularly healthily. You should largely be able to swap out meat with legumes and nuts, without changing everything else.

      Yes, that’s also a diet change, where you have to learn things (for example, pre-soak lentils to make them less farty) and have to get new microbiota into the mix. But it helps to do these dietary changes one at a time, rather than try to swap out everything at once…

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      Unless that’s a phobia, I think you can learn to like them.

      It’s like drinking coffee, it’s gross until you love it (i think… I still hate it, but I hear that’s most people’s experience).

      And maybe you should be cooking or serving up your vegetables in different ways to make it easier to lean into adding them more and more into your diet.

      (I’m not vegan sadly but vegetables are an important part of your diet, I think it’s beneficial for everyone to try to incorporate them in, because you may have a better life idk im also not a nutritionist)

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        My aversion to veggies is basically anything that tastes like farts or garbage (cruciferous veggies): cabbage, carrots, broccoli, lettuce, baby corns, cauliflower, etc.

        I fuck with garlic and all the “onions”. I lucked out with the cilantro gene, and love floral tastes, can tolerate grassy tastes with heavy sauces, but cruciferous veggies kill me lol. I don’t even want to be in the same room as them being cooked. Fun fact:I feel the same way about bacon.

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      Pasta, rice, lentils, peas, chickpeas, beans, mushrooms, mock meats… There are plenty more options other than animal exploitatin products and veggies.