This is part of JD Vance and Peter Thiel’s theological beliefs. They’re “Rad Trads” - as is Steve Bannon. A radical group of extremist Catholics who are trying to destroy the world as they believe only if there’s an apocalypse will Jesus return.
They should be treated as Religious Extremists, and terrorists, and everyone including the Pope should vocally condemn them.
I wonder if they are actually believers. Or if they just recognize how to perpetuate and foment belief in the public.
I think not, they are just accelerationists
Yea, it occurs to me that Thiel is doing these talks, and making them private, and managing to keep them from leaking, to make them mythic/mysterious.
isn’t Theil gay and going to hell already?
Of course, but you won’t find much gold digging in those ideological Möbius strips
yeah thats true
Imagine working that hard to bring about Christ’s return only to get a “yeah… I don’t know you, buddy. Sorry.” from Jesus.
Because they’re a death cult.
The “Rad Trads” - Catholic radical traditionalists including JD Vance and Peter Thiel believe they’re bringing about the apocalypse so that Jesus will return.
So yes, death cult.
This guy literally can’t do anything wrong
Makes everything great -> obviously amazing leader
Fucks everything up -> this guy will save us from the fucked up world
Last time the rapture was no fun…it is only fun if they fuck shit up and take everyone with them…
Really have to wonder why these people can’t just you know go find a compound somewhere and make some special Kool-Aid or something. Why do they got to drag the rest of us into it?
The way the religion is presented to them ties it very purposefully with actual history which, for many of them, gives it all the authenticity needed to believe the crazy shit.
That fact is important because it’s also why they won’t leave us alone, they think the entirety of mankinds existence revolves around these end times ideas and indeed their beliefs REQUIRE there to be non-believers that suffer for rejecting it.
It’s really dumb and upsetting
People who believe in prophesied apocalyptic events should not be in positions of power, because they have a tendency to try to make those prophesies self-fulfilling.
We need separation of church and state, but we also need ways to establish an expectation that religious institutions will at least not promote beliefs that directly go against established science and reason.
Religion is a mental illness. Not adjacent, similar to, nearby, but full-on delusion.
And also by far the greatest threat humanity is facing.
…leads to dangerous behaviours, feelings of invincibility, superiority, delusions…and worst of all: it’s contagious and spreads through speech and culture.
Can we rapture them all up so I can get some peace and quiet?
Freedom from religion pls
The religous are telling me no.
Do these clowns not understand that by wishing trump start their armageddon that it makes him the antichrist?
They are following and encouraging the antichrist?
So yeah, y’all talibangelicals going to your hell.
Logic like that doesn’t work on these people.
I love running into these people. Hell isn’t scriptural and it’s easy to bring the receipts. They are cultists, so you won’t change their mind, but they will never forget you or how you knew their fake religion better than they did. I always hope that a seed planted in their diseased minds eventually sprouts, but it’s still fun to give them a solid intellectual wallop.
I grew up in it, and I love when someone realizes that I know more about their bullshit religion than they do.
Hell is scriptural, according to the scriptures…
Unless you’re referring to the name “Hell” of course, which is not in the Bible.
A place of burning and suffering for all time? Definitely scriptural. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, where the worm dyeth not.
I’m not a Christian, but I do have years upon years upon years upon years of Bible studies.
Bring those receipts! The garbage dump explanation will not suffice (Gehenna)
There is no god. Also, no devil. No heaven, no hell, no angels, no demons.
You can also have years of flat Earth studies, and every other religion that will claim anything as well.
It’s you who have to provide the receipts.
Can your god regrow a single fingertip? Deflect a single .22LR round? Just by 0.5mm?
You misunderstand, it’s not my God, I don’t have one at the moment, but I am accepting applications.
My “receipts” are their claims, collected in the King James Bible (one of many interpretations; not even a complete collection of claims really). I’m able to show what they claim to be true, not the actual truth itself.
I was responding to someone who said they had receipts for their claims (that Hell isn’t scriptural), why would I need to provide any? My receipt is the KJV, which is scriptural.
I’m not making the assertion, friend, but I am responding to an assertion.
As someone who grew up with parents who believed the rapture was constantly about to happen, this is really not newsworthy at all. The predicted date shifts a couple of years each time another one passes by without anything happening. The most original I thought was some date in 1998, because that’s 3 times 666. But really, it’s just a random number from some swindler, usually.
It’s newsworthy because these people are in power in the US, and starting major wars and attacking sovereign nations on several continents.
Not all of them believe the people who come up with dates, my parents just go by vibes and stupid shit that they see as fulfilled prophecy.
Just don’t ask them about all those prophecies that were fulfilled back in the mid 90s when they were certain Jesus’ return was just around the corner. Or about all those same prophecies that were fulfilled again in the early 00s. Or about all those same prophecies that were fulfilled again around 2008. Or about all those same prophecies that were fulfilled again in 2016. Or…
You know the funny thing is there’s actually a biblical calculation that puts the end of the world around 204X that several well known Christian Theoloegians calculated including Isaac Newton.
It seems odd to me that fanatics ignore this prediction and insist on accelerating the end times or claim that the rapture is tomorrow.
The other funny thing is all the insane level of violence and corruption that both Christian and Islamic eschatologies warn about in great detail.
If you’re familiar with either source, the irony is astounding. People read a big fat warning about the end times and then decided “We can accelerate this and make it into heaven by playing the explicitly evil guys in this big fat warning”.
Indeed. Evangelical MAGA really didn’t read their book. It says that no one can accelerate or manufacture the time. If it happens, people will not realize what is going on until the last minute.
Isaac Newton was also obsessed with alchemy, so…
Their own book literally says that nobody knows (or can know) the day. The “real” fanatics don’t fall for the people who give specific dates. Probably because most of them were burnt before lol
I mean… Trump kind of fits the bill as the false prophet
