Its certainly, and validly unpopular here

The main issue with conversational responses from LLMs is their tendency towards confidently incorrect responses or flat out well disguised lies. It isn’t normally blatant but if 95% of what it responds is true, but stated with 100% certainty and apparent proof, how long before that other 5% starts to poison your own reasoning?

Are LLMs completely useless? No. Though challenging your world views, reasoning, and logic with systems that lie and manipulate might not be the best use of said systems.

Yes, small, local LLMs run on your own systems negate the insane economic and environmental cost of corporate LLMs; however, there is still the question of validity and the long term effect ‘outsourcing’ certain thought processes will have on users.

The results given by an LLM are definite and might miss nuance you would get be researching it yourself. Perhaps, for example, you wanted to learn about a topic, so you ask your LLM and it tells you everything it can find that is correct and verifiable; however, it completely disregards the work done by a researcher that turned out to be incorrect. It ignores this because it’s wrong but by reading the work you might learn other things, like the unique and still completely valid methodology the researcher used in their work that the LLM ignored because the results were wrong. ¹

That being said, there is also points where using an LLM might have been useful. You might remember a while ago there were grad students that uploaded a pre-print paper about a room-temperature super conductor they had created; turns out they had just created a special sort of copper alloy that wasn’t super conductive, but just had special magnetic properties. They would have known about this if they had read a paper on the same alloy that was published in the 1970’s. An LLM might have helped them there; however, their suprevisor should have know about that paper also, so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As well, there is the issue of atrophy. I’m not sure if you use your LLM to write emails and whatnot, but if one ‘outsources’ their reading and writing ability, they slowly lose that ability. I’m not sure if they’ll completely lose it, unlikely IMO, but it will certainly wain and one will become dependant on it until such time as they start to read and wirte by themselves again. It’s a bit like not reading books, there is a difference between the vernacular of someone that reads a lot compared with someone that doesn’t read at all. The brain is very fluid in this respect, and the ‘flows’ are important.

I recall a bizarre thread in the steam discussion forums regarding a certain game; the user had used an LLM to create a post about the rough parts of the game (it was still in development). The post was well articulated of course, and there weren’t any mistakes in the grammar… when the user was writing comments by themselves without the LLM however… well lets just say the contrast was extreme. They simply couldn’t articulate anything very well by themselves, and likely have never written anything longer thena paragraph. They were using a corporate LLM ofc, but the difference is the same in this respect.

1. It’s a common issue in scientific literature where if a researchers theory turns out to be wrong, they’ll retract the paper; however, it is still useful. Much like if there’s a team of people making a map of some maze and they always erase all the parts of the map that lead to a dead end.

It’s useful but certainly going to make people dumber and/or schizos, sadly.

I have found it to be very good at vomiting up keywords I can go and research myself

There’s this guy who hangs out on the steps of my local public library. I think he might be homeless. He always carries a chess set with him and will play a game with anyone who asks him. Anyway, he has an amazing memory and is really good at looking things up in the library if you ask him, but I think he might have some mental issues because he sometimes/often gets things wrong. But when he gets things right he really saves you a lot of time. You definitely have to double-check the facts, which wastes time so it’s a toss-up whether you’re actually saving time. And he can write things for you but his writing is 100% generic, like he has no personality or ideas of his own. Still, though, it comes in handy sometimes. And he can be fun to talk to but for the love of god don’t give him any personal info or he’ll share it with everyone who passes by. That’s kind of how i think of LLMs now.

It certainly is good for helping people make uninformed decisions, for better or worse. Use at your own risk, remember Ai is a slave to the company it works for and it has no problem with lying to you to make that company more money.

Ai is certainly not going away and eventually it will grow into something else. But if we wanted something reliable and consistently useful then we wouldn’t be developing Ai, especially from tech Bros, we would be strictly regulating companies that create Ai. So I believe we as flesh bags need to cautiously figure out a way to live with it because no one is going to protect us from it. Ai represents a way for companies to gather more data while reducing their workforce. Governments see it as a way to reduce their workforce, track citizens and use it as a weapon (foreign and domestic).

Ai is a tool for people who needs someone to make decisions for them, a tool to perform tedious tasks, a tool for surveillance, a tool for interference, a tool for companionship for the lonely or relationship lazy.

Essentially Ai is a tool and it’s up to you how you use it, and as a tool it has no loyalty or emotions, use with caution.

I am still looking for a mechanism to use a smaller LLM (SLM) along with Wikipedia as its RAG, so it’s as accurate as possible.

“I validate the results every time” 🤡

I’m with you OP.

I find the choice between interacting with AI and social media to be a choice between a rational conversation and an emotionally unpleasant one.

We use social media because we’re addicted to the unpleasantness: the frustratingly reductionistic, biased, insulting and manipulative attempts at argumentation…you need a human for that.

It is a good partner to challenge me,

Not really. I tried many models, and they tend to be rather uncreative when trying to find hole in your reasoning. I tried to debate the model about replacing regular inflationary currency with crypto with no inflation backed in. The best argument model made against it, was that I’m replacing one complex system with another equally complex one.

Valid but not super smart…

What bothers me is that noone tried making a game with local LLM as storyteller/director. If you have 16GB GPU you can easily spare half of that on LLM while rest holds the graphics. No cloud BS is really necessary.

Nothing quite like poisoning community’s, sucking up all the water an making everyone’s power bill huge for some slop.

It’s so funny how you see the absolute outpouring of emotions over a technology.

The only other one I’ve seen elicit such visceral feedback is vim