UK and Japan among countries that are considering options but yet to commit warships to blockaded shipping route
Countries including the UK, Japan, China and South Korea have said they are still considering their options but without making commitments after the US president, Donald Trump, urged them to send warships to the strait of Hormuz to secure the vital shipping route.
The effective closure of the strait of Hormuz by Tehran, in retaliation for airstrikes by the US and Israel, has proved catastrophic for global energy and trade flows, causing the largest oil supply disruption in history and soaring global oil prices.
However, the international response to Trump’s call for the dispatch of warships has so far proved vague and reluctant, with countries unwilling to commit to a military response that could prove treacherous for their navies.
This seems to suggest that shitting on our allies, behaving erratically, and stabbing them in the back (and front) isn’t the best way to build a broad coalition devoted to mutual interests, to say nothing of a narrow coalition devoted to obvious imperialism. I look forward to learning more about this hypothesis in The Art of the Deal 2.
I guarantee you they have not made that connection at all.
The documentaries in ten or twenty years are gonna slap
… If we get there
This is really stupid, just from a strategic point of view, let alone from a moral or political perspective. Sending ships into the Strait just puts those ships in the line of fire…so, why would anyone actually agree to send ships there?
Iran has the “high ground” here. There is no way for ships to take back control of the Strait this way. All the US is doing, is asking allies to take losses for no reason.
Or… he’s asking them to take losses because he doesn’t consider them allies. World conquest would be easier with the Chinese and UK navies out of the way.
As it should. NATO is a defense alliance, not a pedoking/kingbibi distraction gone bad. I hope the EU can keep holding on, because the influx into far right parties and EU election tampering has become noticeable enough to possibly change this in the future.
Why isn’t the Orange ShitGoblin using the ‘Board of Peace’ to sort this trifling issue out?
Typo, it was supposed to be ‘Bored of Peace’ /s
I dislike increasingly elaborate insult names, absolutely no one who cares about it really needs convincing, they just make it unnecessarily long and random nonsensical jibberish. And I like mangos.
If they don’t make any sense to you, you might be clueless. Two words, too “increasingly elaborate” for you, and one of them is literally used by the supporter’s of whom I was referring to.
It’s obvious, elaborate means that they’re getting longer and varied and more contrived. We don’t need a million variations of insults for someone that is already reviled.
But what if they’re hilarious, like Drumpf
/s
It’s ok to call the namecaller-in-chief names.
The next world war is gonna be governments vs people. World civil war
Isn’t that what MAGA claims Jan. 6th was about? People are getting increasingly put into bubbles to work against their own countries by networks bought up by billionaires exactly for that purpose, and they are spinning it just as you have.
The scary far right parties tend to be against NATO. CDU implemented all of the hateful anti-immigrant legislation the AfD wanted. Its those “pure liberal hearts” that want war on Russia, and digital ID surveillance.
Sorry bud, Russia launched the “three day” invasion of Ukraine, not the other way around. Digital ID surveillance, that’s not party dependent, how blind do you have to be to not see Palantir over in the US. From the power hungry to the people seeing fake Internet theory work out in social networks, they all want “digital ID surveillance”.
NATO only does humanitarian bombing.
The United States needs a regime change
And a system change to boot. This is a symptom.
Personally I think this is a Yugoslavia type situation. Better to just dissolve it all and contain all the stupid shit to one country, who’s the Serbia in this situation though since all the old regions of the US outside of the Carolinas are ambivalent at best towards this shit.
The world should say “Drop the tariffs and we will talk”
Then say “No”.
I’m not sure the American people have learned their lesson yet. I say let the Tariffs continue until they realize they should never elect another Republican again. I say that as an American paying for the tariffs. The answer should just be “No.”
The average American reads and comprehends at a sixth grade level. Learning is not the America strong suit here.
Wrong, that’s way too high of a grade level.
Good. Fuck the US, Israel and Trump. And fuck anyone and everyone that supports this pedophilic nazi piece of shit.
I thought he didn’t need any help with the war he had already won?
Iran has already offered all countries the out of kicking out the US and Israel embassadors so that their ships are allowed to pass the Straight.
Further, my impression is that at least in Europe and especially after the Greenland affair, most of the public opinion thinks Trump is an untrustworthy liar AND because they attacked Iran unprovoked, America and Israel are the ones to blame for the increase in fuel and gas prices they’re already feeling.
(There’s enough independent press in most of Europe that the “blame Iran” messaging is far from dominant)
The idea of sending European ships into Trump’s war is incredibly unpopular and whilst I don’t think we’re quite yet at the stage were kicking out the American embassador would be popular, the more fuel and gas prices go up the more acceptable it looks.
Then the whole Epstein files thing throws suspicion in people’s minds on any European politician that’s a little too eager to do what America or Israel wants.
At the very least the offer from Iran introduces doubt and confusion making it far harder for blackmailed European politicians to find a way to justify the incredibly unpopular idea of putting European ships and military at risk because of a war of pure aggression started by America and Israel.
Is that offer still open to friendly nations? As I understand it, they have been mining the strait, and things just seem a bit chaotic to mine it in a way that leaves a safe and known path, plus how to communicate that path to those they want to let through while denying those they don’t. Unless the minea are remote instead of proximity, but I think part of the point was to make the embargo passive so that carpet bombing the area wouldn’t be an effective counter.
I don’t know about you but my youtube feed is now filled with NATO propaganda…
Consume American media and media hosted by American companies, get fed pure propaganda.
The old Soviet joke of “There is no pravda (truth) in Pravda, there’s no isvestia (news) in the Isvestia” also applies to the American (and British, Australian and possibly Canadian) Press and other modern means of “opinion forming”.
Most countries in Europe aren’t quite as bad, but even here at least some of the Press is very biased and even Propagandistic (Germany what from what I’ve heard is especially bad, Britain I know from personal experience is horrible in that sense, possibly worse than the US)
Thankfully we still have the CBC. Privately owned news here is all dog whistling and hand wringing now.
The US has the largest military navy in the world, by far. They can very well choose to “escort ships” on their own, if they’re ready to accept the risks that comes with it.
The US is essentially looking for a sucker to stick his neck out for them. The British would be smart to keep out of this one, but again, they’re British.
American here.
Our asshole government started this fucking war and is fully responsible for the consequences. Other countries should embargo us until we agree to pay reparations to cover the economic damage caused by the war. Or better yet - seize any assets of American oligarchs to cover damages.
It sounds like I’m ignoring the human cost of the war, and that’s because the human cost isn’t a concern for those behind Trump. The billionaire class running this country doesn’t care about how many innocent people suffer, so they need to be attacked economically.
I like the idea of them seizing the assets of the oligarchs, but I’m sure they’d come up with a way to make the 99% pay for it like they did after 08 and like they already are with the private credit collapse.
Why should any sane country even respond? This is an American-Israeli undertaking. They started it out of folly, they deal with it.
Maybe he should ask his “Board of Peace” for support. There are more than enough bootlickers.
Or the ships should simply follow the law of the seas: the country responsible for the ships’ security in such cases is the one they are sailing under. Let’s see how Panama, Nigeria, Philippines (or whatever is the cheapest flag of fancy at the moment) run to help.
If someone should protect the strait, its UAE, Saudi-Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait and everyone who’s exports are dependent of it.
According to Iran, some of the strikes on those territories are black flag ops by Mossad/Israel. Israel would do this to keep GCC allied with “US mission”. GCC is faced with choice of attacks by Iran or by axis of demonism. All of the countries you listed, KSA excepted, have outsourced their military to the US.
All of the countries you listed are opposed to the war, and would be thrilled with full cease fire, and Iran giving everyone permission to transit Gulf, and trade.
Once again, the USA being the only NATO member to ask ‘allies’ for help, only to later call all of them freeloaders.
Not completely muted. Spain and italy made it very clear how they felt.
So we’re out of nato but we expect nato to help? Eat a brick trump
Nato AND China
“CLEAN my MESS! CLEAN my MESS!”
Made from real gorilla chest!
And this sweater, it’s no better, made from real Irish Setter!
There’s a very simple solution to it. The US fucks off. They’ve made things a lot worse for themselves and everyone else as it is, so pull out now and we’ll all try figure out how to clean this mess up over the next year or two.
