this post contains slurs and mention of slurs, if you feel offended by them or fear to be triggered, please avoid this
The only people that i know that agreed to use them in dark humor or irony are either from my country, a similiar country to mine or straight up are the slurs victims, so i wonder…what do y’all think? If it’s not a problem i’d like to know if you don’t mind the use of slurs in a ironic way or dark humor context and where are you from and if you are one of the victim of the slur;
I want to underline that i mean only slurs in a IRONIC or DARK HUMOR context and not meant to harm.
Will i get banned?
IMO funny people can be funny without spreading hateful words and stereotypes.
I’d say it’s OK, provided that:
- The context makes it clear that it’s not meant to offend.
- The slur is actually needed. If the joke works without the slur, don’t.
- Limited (but diverse) audience who understand the humor at play and the people involved.
But then again, I am rarely the target of any slurs, so it’s not really up to me to decide.
Example: This coworker and I used to make jokes about each other’s background all the time. I was mumbling under my breath about how much I hated the paperwork involved in filing expense claims. He said something referencing my lowbrow hillbilly background and how it didn’t mesh well with paperwork. I offered him 10% of the payout if he used his Jewish superpowers and did the paperwork for me. There were maybe two or three others present, all of whom knew us and our dynamic well, and nobody called HR on either of us.
I agree with that, i don’t have any problem either; I even use slurs like batty boy or lady boy in ironic/dark contexts while talking of myself simply because it make me laugh (I am a femboy and genderfluid, that’s why i use 'em), usually with other trans or bisexual friends, but if there is someone that don’t like it I avoid to do it, i also avoid if there is a transphobic/racist/etc etc person in the conversation because they would use it seriously and probably think it’s normal, which is NOT
Though, if they use it seriously then i am going to do dark humo about them by saying stuff like “I hope that you hangout more often with us…by your feets” or “you should wear another scarf today”, in there i didn’t used slurs but it’s kinda dark ( i guess? My meter of how much something is dark is kinda broken tbh)
This is where I was tempted to respond with a joke, referencing your gender and sexual identity, as an example use of what I consider acceptable in this particular contex. While you would probably get the joke and not be offended by it, I have decided against it, since there are likely to be people stumbling in, not understanding the context, and taking offense to it. Audience matters, intentionally or not. Plus, the written form makes it harder to convey the humor in a manner that cannot be misunderstood.
Plus, I can only imagine the “this you?”-screenshots when I try to state explicitly that the boards I mod are against homophobia and transphobia, or anything similar.
Could you tell the joke to me in DM? I am very curious now XD
Nah, it’s not that good, but I can give you a censored version of the ending:
“I’m not homophobic, some of my best friends are f-slur !”. Works with any group of people and their slurs.
Yeah, maybe. When it’s for humour it needs to be worth it though. If it’s funny enough then yes it’s ok.
I don’t think any language is sacred. But I also don’t want to negatively impact anyone with my choice of language, so it very much depends on context. And some slurs have such a strong cultural stigma that there exists almost no context where they would be ok.
I feel like usage of slurs are 99% unnecessary. I stopped using slurs in my own jokes when i realized it only normalizes the usage of that slur.
Even if you dont mean anything harmful or “its just a joke” that still normalizes its usage as a degrading term. I mean the sole intention of using that word is because it is degrading/harmful, why else would it be dark humor?
I also just find humor and jokes to be way more creative and funny when you dont use slurs.
I have no problem with the victims of a certain slur using said word since you cant really discriminate yourself the same way others can, hence why using it upon yourself and/or your own group/culture is also common.
For anyone interested theres alot of philosophy and human rights concepts behind this. My partner is currently studying human rights which is where some of these concepts were brought up in way more detail.
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Not to random strangers online. Life long friends in private sure. But what you’re doing is walking out on to the street with a megaphone yelling out slurs ironically. Insane behaviour.
But what you’re doing is walking out on to the street with a megaphone yelling out slurs ironically. Insane behaviour
Huh what do you mean, i never said i do anything like that
Generally, no, I don’t find slurs acceptable. Let me say there are some light-hearted jokes that are more like a group’s preferences than deficiencies, but it seems you’re talking about stereotypical deficiencies. Language evolves and slurs can become terms of endearment
I generally find that the people who use slurs for jokes are really just reinforcing stereotypes to the harm of the named groups, all for a laugh with their in-group. When I’ve seen the out-group name themselves with a slur, it tends to feel like that person is trying to prove themselves to the in-group as not so out of the group. Even when “equivalent” slurs are thrown at the in-group, their weight and historical context tend to be far less impactful. Even when “cracker” is thrown at white United States Americans, there’s a clear and obvious heft behind that “equivalent” term for black people, given that it’s a word with such heavy risk it’s still pronounced “n-word” instead of being said in full. The problem I have with these words, even among friends or when spoken by someone of that slur, is it continues to foster and promote negative stereotypes about ethnic groups, typically. Every group has something they’re cheap about, yet it’s “jewing down” or “gypping” you in the US+.
Personally, the only time I bring out my slurs is when my dad decides to say some oldhead racist shit. I match his harmless/“how I was raised in a different time” terminology with the equivalent words for his ancestry. Suuuuddeeenly it’s a big fuckin problem. .
Like pornography I know it when I see it.
Words can be harmful even if you don’t mean them to be. If the slur doesnt apply to you, you should not be using it. If it does apply to you, there is a discussion to be had, but i still avoid using the slurs that apply to me in most cases because they rarely have a positive effect on the point or joke i am making.
