• stebator@lemmy.world
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    While the Motorola/GrapheneOS news is interesting, it’s a shame that GrapheneOS’s lack of root access continues to be a significant limitation. For users who prioritize data ownership and the ability to create full, local backups (Swift Backup being a prime example), it’s simply not a viable option. Security is important, but so is control over your own data.

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    Guess I know which brand my next smartphone upgrade will be.

    If they did some nice 7" tablets too, that would be perfect.

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      Lenovo/Moto is weird about that… The android phones and android tablets have next to nothing to do with each other.

      I do have a couple of their tablets and like them well enough, but you might as well consider them an entirely different vendor versus the Moto phone part of the business.

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        19 hours ago

        Well that’s a shame.

        I’ve been looking around for a replacement to my aged Samsung A6 (which has been given an extended life by replacing the factory ROM with something with less bloatware, but is still pretty limited in terms of memory) which is not a Surveillance Outpost for just who knows how many nations and just about any companies willing to pay the 3 cents of whatever for the data, and all the Linux and degoogled Android makers only have 10"+ ones, which are too big for my use case which carry a tablet on a coat or trousers back pocket when I’m going to be sitting down somewhere and waiting for something so that I can read books and maybe browse the internet on their free WiFi.

        Personally I would LOOOVE a small Linux tablet, but I’m OK with some kind of privacy respecting Android which isn’t riddled with backdoors mandated by governments which have Information Courts issuing Secret Bulk Information Collecting Orders, like the US and the UK.

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    I remember my original Moto G. It was a good phone for the time. I will follow Graphene wherever they go until a Linux phone is ready.

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      My last few phones have been Motorolas and I’ve been very very happy with them.

      My only issue was that back then, I wasn’t really paying attention to alternative OSs like Graphene, Lineage or e/os and was therefore not really too concerned with ROM support/chip set. When I switched over to e/os, two of my Motorola’s (including the one I WANT to use with it) has no ROM support because it’s running a Mediatek chipset. So I’m using my second to last one while my nice new one collects dust.

      Moving forward I’ll be paying more attention to Qualcomm vs Mediatek.

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        yeah i might focus on Android phones that have Good ROM/ support
        i think their graphene OS powered phone will have bootloader unlocking.

        i hope Google does not take away Sideloading. (but i think graphene returns it)

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      2 days ago

      Me too. I’ve always bought Google Pixels but I don’t want to give Google my money anymore.

      So I’ll probably buy a Motorola if this deal gets through.

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        Me too. I’ve always bought Google Pixels but I don’t want to give Google my money anymore.

        what about used?

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          I’m on a Google Pixel 9A.

          But at least I didn’t pay for it, Google paid me, thanks to a clever mix of a big 9A launch discount, a trade-in discount and the fact that the older Pixel I traded in had already been partially refunded because of the infamous battery problems.

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      2 days ago

      i bought a mororolla 3 years ago and it still lasts 2 days on a charge. id say go for it.

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        i gotta see first if Motorola/Lenovo will actually ship graphene OS and other factors.
        they dont sound like bad phones and even better with this collab

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      I had completely forgotten Lenovo bought Motorola from Google some 10 years ago. Honestly haven’t seen a Motorola phone in at least that long …

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        Been using motorola for a long time. I bought Moto Z in 2016 and it booted with “Motorola company” text in the end of the boot video. After Lenovo acquisition, phone updated and video now said “Motorola, a Lenovo company”.

        Thankfully, Motorola haven’t entshittified over these years. Still a solid phone. Almost no bloat.

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    I actually bought a new Motorola phone 2 months ago precisely because i wanted a phone with an unlockable bootloader, and motorola delivered that.

    Vote with your wallet.

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      I once bought a Motorola one phone because it would have quick and lengthy updates. Motorola certainly didn’t provide that.
      Other than that it was a decent phone.

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    Very interesting, I’ll keep an eye on Motorola phones. Not that I need a new one anytime soon, but still that’s the kind of thing that could be refreshing to read news about.

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    I always thought Pixel was the platform to have for fucking around with the OS and stuff. Of fucking course I was an idiot.

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          Yeah, I’m aware that Microsoft coined that phrase, but Google seems to be doing something quite similar.

          Google embraced the creation of an open-sourced Android project, extended its capabilities with centralized software distribution, and is now extinguishing by forcing developers to comply with its new requirements and banning third-party app stores.

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      Don’t be too hard on yourself, they definitely put money and effort into influencing opinions in all the subversive ways they can manage. But also, let this be a lesson to always check alternatives and their reason for existing. I consider it part of best practices.