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Ad-blocking is a property right. I have every right to control what my device does or does not display, by definition of ownership. Conversely, advertisers or other parties attempting to colonize my device by forcing it to display something against my (the owner’s) will is a hostile act that violates my rights.
I always and will also try to give websites 1 try.
If I like your content on your site you get 1 try to show ads and if they are not offensively placed and not playing audio… you get to live
If you want to actively shit on them, there is AdNauseam, which is a fork of uBlock Origin but in addition to blocking the ads, it clicks on absolutely everything, sending fake signals. Polluting their database is costing them money and they have to deal with all the noise.
Not for everyone, but definitely an active hostility towards these fucks.
I’ve never had it actually collect an ad
Do you know if AdNauseum actively merges in new uBlock Origin changes, or is it fully forked?
https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/ It’s a direct fork that seems pretty up to date, only lagging 26 commits behind upstream
Advertisement makes me want that product even less.
The worse the product is, the more desperate they get to shove it in your face. Good products don’t need to pay others to pretend it’s good, you just find out via word-of-mouth or free trials
I was thinking about this just the other day. There’s a popular market in my home state, one I’ve been going to since childhood. It’s a single store, not a chain, and it’s almost always packed. I’ve never seen nor heard a single ad for it in my life. Naturally, that makes me like the place even more.
Yep I actively avoid companies that inundate me. I’ve switched insurance companies because of it (local agent got me much better rates too).
So you’re telling me gaico doesn’t save as much on car insurance?
People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you. You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity. Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head. You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
Banksy
Somewhat relevant are the Subvertisers for London (as well as similar groups all over the world):
haha that is great
All ads are non consensual and designed to get your attention. So we put them in places like on giant boards along highways. Very cool, very safe.
There’s a giant, glowing, animated LED billboard along a main road near my house that had a PSA about distracted driving on it the other day. It made me angry.
Yeahhhh that kind of on the face irony would absolutely bug me too
Nice point if view. Ironically we live in times when minding others boundaries is almost common sense. Abusive behavior gets public contempt. But everyone is just accepting manipulative, malicious and intrusive ads.
Yet another reason we need to move away from cars. Since the distraction is likely not going away, we need to minimize the safety/distraction issue.
(Goddamn we need so much high speed rail, and yesterday)
If you don’t think you can do away with billboards I don’t see how you’d think you could get people to stop using cars. Especially with how many things get delievered door to door these days. You could put every commuter on trains and the roads would still have traffic. I don’t see changing that being any easier than getting rid of billboards and other highly intrusive ads.
I understand that cars serve a purpose. But trains and buses move orders of magnitude more people than cars could ever dream. With a properly functioning transit system (including the aforementioned high speed rails) traffic would clear up (because traffic didn’t happen to you, you are traffic), and fewer distracted operators would be on the road.
And in removing those people from operating vehicles, the distraction of a billboard, and the subsequent potential accidents, are mitigated.
And yes we also need to get rid of billboards.
I moved to Linux, use Freetube, LineageOS on the phone, listen all day to internet radios from the command line, browser with uBlock add on and it’s been years since I saw or listened an ad.
I would like to know more about this Internet radio command line thingy
It’s a script that I made some years ago. Give it executable permission and you can search (e.g. streema-cli jazz) play and save radio stations. I uses mpv. It loads saved stations when run with no arguments.
Until, you know, you went outside.
The eternal pestilence of physical advertising. Our world will not truly be clean until Linux purges the sins of marketing from this Earth.
Incidentally, you might be interested in Cidade Limpa
Would that be the law everywhere.
Same, glad to hear there are others who found the path free from these parasites :)
If you have to react to advertising you’re already doing it wrong. If it’s able to reach you on your hardware in any form, you’ve already failed.
Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation. Shady, manipulative, tactics.
Fuck them. I love Lemmy because it seems like the ratio of like-minded people is much larger here. Nothing better than seeing other principled people that would rather give up some comforts than deal with ads and bend the knee to the pieces of shit that try to push them.
Even products in the supermarket (such as bread!!) come with ads in the fucking plastic wrapper. I have changed my bread brand due to this. I will absolutely give up any comfort to avoid your manipulation. I will fucking shower in cold water if it means I don’t bend the knee to pieces of shit.
Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation.
Don’t worry they’ve solved that, it’s called 🩷 𝐼𝓃𝒻𝓁𝓊𝑒𝓃𝒸𝒾𝓃𝑔 😎. That’s much less ominous! They just influence!
It’s been a minute so I could be misremembering, but you’re not far off. Another word for public relations (the shaping of public opinion) is propaganda.
Edward Bearnays wrote a book titled Propaganda, where he talks about the need to rebrand the work of Propagandist after it became associated with negative influence during WW2. From what I recall he used the term public relations, but seemed to prefer the term propaganda.
He’s also the person infamous for convincing Americans that we should eat bacon and eggs for breakfast. Another interesting story is about how he advertised to make music rooms in homes trendy, so he could help sell more pianos.
He talks about some of the early manipulation tactics advertisers use. Such as trying to sell you an experience instead of a product. Think of how modern car commercials show a lifestyle more than they show you the car.
It’s an enlightening book that shows that before the war, calling an advertiser a propagandist wouldn’t be out of place. Those propagandist manipulated us into calling the PR now.
Oh, and if I recall correctly propaganda comes from Latin and means “to propagate.”
Well said. It disgusts me a lot, and it also dismays me to see a lot of people don’t care at all about ads. I even rememeber people in my old job talking about ads on tv. Boggles my mind.
If I am forced to see or interact with an ad I will do absolutely everything in my power to excise that ad source from my life.
I used to think anti-consumerism was a lot more popular. It’s a significant disconnect from how I thought people are. Apparently I took more media related courses in high school and university than most people do.
One thing that continued to confuse me is how tech cultures are unrepentantly consumer capitalists. The earlier times of the world wide web was very counter-culture. So it’s been an unending source of befuddlement how tech nerds have been deep-throating the adtech boot.
Pacified by $$$ signs. Counter culture doesn’t pay for Bezos next yacht.
You guys get ads? 😈
Actually I’m always surprised at how pervasive they are. I keep thinking the way my home infra is set up is normal and people are exaggerating about ads for lulz.
But every now and then when I jump on a unfiltered system I realise “No, no they are not”.
Its crazy how much people put up with it every time I see someone elses browser I ask them why they dont use an ad blocker and I always gets some nothing reply.
Have you installed Bonzi Buddy yet?
I have no idea what that is, so let me look it up…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBuddy
Huh; must have missed that one back in the day! Though I do recall the Homer Simpson that was like that, and e-sheep
Not just personal mind poison, but societal poison too. Most of our media companies are just ad businesses with whatever they portray as their main products as window dressing. Meta, Google, NYT, all TV networks, even NPR is increasingly funded by ads. I was hopeful in the shift to paid streaming services this might change, and it did sort of, for a while, but increasingly they too are turning to ads.
Not just personal mind poison, but societal poison too.
i came to realize this when when my home built router died a few months ago.
it was based on pfsense and i had setup publicly shared advertisement blocking; so i hadn’t see any ad at all for years.
i became annoyed when i started seeing them after the router died and then i actively became angry when i was bombarded by them while watching tv as i was visiting family, yet they didn’t think anything was wrong with watching the same mcdonalds advertisement 500x in a single hour.
that shit has an impact on your psyche whether you know right away or not.
Yup. For me it was when I went on vacation with my family. Tried to enjoy a movie in the evening after a day out and my god. Ads every literal 7 minutes of movie. How the fuck anyone can deal with that is beyond me.
same here, i couldn’t finish watch the movie because i was so angry about it. lol
It blows my mind that some people on my team were excited to watch the commercials during the Super Bowl.
I live my life in a way that minimizes the advertising I’m exposed to, and some people are just mainlining that garbage.
I mean, it blows my mind that people were excited to watch the Super Bowl at all. The advertisements are often the best part, given that the game itself is so mired in interruptions - often to deliberately increase the amount of air time for ads.
I grew up with every internet ad being likely hostile, you didn’t click any of them. It kinda stuck with me.
But also they went way overboard. If it’s a site funded by advertising and there was just a simple banner at the top or something then fine, I’d just ignore it still but whatever. But everything is so obnoxious now, so fuck ‘em.
Advertising shits in your brain.
Let’s get rid of it.
