• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    They don’t have a copy of every single Bitlocker key. They do have a copy of your Bitlocker key if you are dumb enough to allow it to sync with your Microsoft account, you know, “for convenience.”

    Don’t use a Microsoft account with Windows, even if you are forced to use Windows.

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      4 days ago

      To use Windows without a Microsoft account requires tech literacy these days, I thought. I would not be suprised if users didn’t choose to sync with a MS account but it’s doing it anyway, if that’s what MS want.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        If you sign in with a Microsoft account at all I don’t believe there’s the capability to opt out.

        I only use local accounts. I have never had a Microsoft account. I never will.

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          You can’t do that anymore, at least not with a normal Windows installation. All of the tricks of forcing it offline, clicking cancel 10 times and jumping up and down don’t work anymore, they’ve disabled them all, the only way to install Windows 11 now (using the normal Microsoft installer) is by linking it to a Microsoft account.

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            You can still create a local account by setting the PC up as a “School or Business” PC and then choosing the local account option.

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            This is not true. There are several tools to create a bootable USB that uses a local account.

            They just made it hard for Joe Schmoe to avoid it.

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                3 days ago

                Joe Schmoe buys new laptop with Windows preinstalled.

                Joe Schmoe boots it for the first time.

                Greeted by first-log-on.

                Goes through steps and is immediately captured.

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            I have a windows 11 installation without an account. You got to get an alternative image (I got LTSC).

            I was really hoping there would be a jailbroken version of windows by now, you know a version that doesn’t update and doesn’t have any bloatware.

            I guess it’s just not worth it given how far Linux has advanced.

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            3 days ago

            Just update a W10 local install. It won’t even try to ask you to add a microsoft account.

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      4 days ago

      Save a copy of your bitlocker keys to a Veracrypt drive with a password no shorter then 15 mixed characters. Then upload that encrypted container to any free service. They wont be able to open it and now you have a remote backup copy.

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        I employed the super secure expedient of never exporting my keys. I have no idea what they are, I never did, and I never will.

        There’s really no irreplaceable data on my Windows machine. If I have to reformat it some day A) that’s no big deal, and B) it’s Windows, what else is new.

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        3 days ago

        If the password is long 15 characters that means you use a password manager. At that point just put the bitlocker password in the password manager

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      3 days ago

      Why is that dumb?

      I encrypt my drive to protect my data from burglars and thieves who might steal my laptop, how would they obtain the recovery key from Microsoft? O_o

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      They do have a copy of your Bitlocker key if you are dumb enough to allow it to sync with your Microsoft account, you know, “for convenience.”

      Which I don’t believe is the only way it can leak. It’s well known Microsoft can access anything and everything on an internet connected Windows PC whether there’s a Microsoft account or not. If the nazi’s push for the device of someone on a local account only, you know they’ll magically find a way.