• Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    ICE is all those things, including Gestapo. Nazi Germany was heavily influenced by America after all, it’s no surprise it’s come full circle

    • edible_funk@lemmy.world
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      Yeah basically the entire Nazi modus operandi was lifted from American entrepreneurs and general culture.

    • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyz
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      I’ve heard ICE is closer to the SA than ths Gestapo, since the Gestapo was mostly intelligence while SA was brute force

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        Correct, however most people don’t know anything at all about SA. They know SS and Gestapo.

        To anybody reading this, if you want to learn more - both about SA itself and how things like SA/Nazism came to be - I cannot recommend Babylon Berlin enough. The first season is about the post-Great War Germany, whereas the second season is pretty much specifically about the rise of Hitler.

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    They are also gestapo. Just look up the meaning:

    …notorious for its brutal methods, including arbitrary arrest, surveillance, and enforcement of Nazi policies

    • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Truth. And Andrew Johnson ruined justice for the south. We cannot afford another sympathizer.

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    There’s a strong case that says Trump has not changed America, he has revealed it.

    • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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      There’s a strong case that’s RT propaganda and not indicative of the millions of individuals who are actively protesting. Shut your propaganda hole

      • edible_funk@lemmy.world
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        It’s absolutely RT ml propaganda but there’s an incredibly valid point in there. None of what’s happening is at all new to any POC or GSM.

        • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Just now it’s affecting more of white people are they realizing how bad it is. Make no mistake though, marginalized groups like PoC and LGBT+ have always been crushed under the boot of a puritanical, racist, fascist government.

      • essell@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        yeah, so I do appreciate that there are a lot of people at the moment angrily shouting that someone should do something about this.

        That’s always been the case too. No matter what direction America was pulling in.

        Considering all the viewpoints is not propaganda, you ninny, and that has to include acknowledging the true history of your country

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        Woah now there partner. We can totally separate out the average citizen and the ruling class/government.

        When it comes to the government Trump is par for the course. He has taken the mask off the most destructive force in the history of the world.

        The only propaganda is believing Trump poses a new and unique threat. The problems have been there from the start. He is the logical progression of money makes right and a reflection of our money worshipping society.

  • El_guapazo@lemmy.world
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    Ice has always been like this to Latinos. Why do you think people ran when they said that the migra was approaching? It became a joke but people were being abused, locked up, and violently separated from family. Only now is happening in front of cameras and to white people

  • AshMan85@lemmy.world
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    Has less to do with history and more to do with labeling them the worst thing one can be labeled in society. Oh, and they fit the literal definition of nazi trash

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      Also using terms they can understand, many Americans were extremely anti Nazi during the 40s 50s and the US entire educational system spent decades highlighting Nazis are evil.

      Many northern US schools barely touch on the native American atrocities or Jim Crow laws. I strongly suspect the Southern schools never mentioned them. So there’s no frame of reference for them.

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    I don’t give a shit what you call them. They shouldn’t be doing what they are doing.

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    The historicity is important at other times. But now we need to get people politically engaged with their feet. At this point if we called them Teletubbies and it mobilized people into organized resistance, I’d take it.