• nothrone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    People keep saying that, but is that really true? Because I just don’t see society having any sort of memory.

    For fuck sake, the guy is a rapist, pedophile, liar of the highest order. No one cares. Sure, some people are moving away from US services/products, but 1. Not that many people are doing it and 2. Once a non pedophile, war-monger gets back in the presidency, some little bit of marketing and everyone will go back to buying US.

    I just don’t think anyone gives a shit. There is like 1 principled person for every 100000 people.

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      People keep saying that, but is that really true? Because I just don’t see society having any sort of memory.

      American society

      For fuck sake, the guy is a rapist, pedophile, liar of the highest order. No one cares. Sure, some people are moving away from US services/products, but 1.

      Americans didn’t seem to care, the rest of the world was screaming top of our collective lungs

      Not that many people are doing it and 2. Once a non pedophile, war-monger gets back in the presidency, some little bit of marketing and everyone will go back to buying US.

      Business people are soulless ghouls so that could happen… but the regular people can hold a grudge. Look at how Canada’s population has rejected anything USA even when the Gov was all appeasement and boot licking until this speech… also remember how much Americans seem to hate Russia and Communism even though most can barely point to one in the map or understand the definition of the other in the dictionary

      I just don’t think anyone gives a shit. There is like 1 principled person for every 100000 people.

      Again, you are judging the world on the template of Muricans

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      We need to deny the United States that marketing, then. Hollywood is failing right now. We need to make sure it doesn’t recover.

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      This is what is wrong with the world. People have become so numb, that they don’t care.

      Firehose of falsehood. Russian propaganda playbook of making people resigned and indifferent.

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      Unfortunately the damage is done. Nations that were asleep at the wheel so to speak and just complacent with the world order arangement have woken up to the danger and risk of doing that. Europe is not going to rely on the US for security anymore no matter who is in charge.

      There will be agreements and treaties and shit like that, but our global power is waining (as will the dollar).

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      It’s not just that, I meant more from an international geopolitics POV.

      Countries are also for example getting rid of US dollar in favour of gold and silver, or investing in non-US solutions or income streams for many problems technical, agricultural, medical etc because the US might tariff them for no fricking reason. People are no longer looking as much to US as a place where they can settle with their families long term, or a place to conduct research because a large population is brainwashed into being anti-science and anti-immigrant.

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      Once a non pedophile, war-monger gets back in the presidency, some little bit of marketing and everyone will go back to buying US.

      It remains to be seen if you’ll ever have free elections again. You might become a dictatorship well before then.

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      5 days ago

      rapist, pedophile

      I would like this to be true (which is fucked up when you think about it), but do we actually have hard evidence or is this still just speculation? Sure, a lot of information indicates that Trump & co has been involved in sexual abuse with Epstein. Not trying to be a troll or bait, but we need to base our claims on facts and evidence or else we will become just like Trump & co - liars and conspirators.

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        Well, he was found civilly liable for rape, so I’d say that one is settled. As for pedophilia, we have a lot of circumstantial evidence, and he’s literally blocking the release of the hard evidence, so I’d say most reasonable people can come to that conclusion.

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        He is an adjudicated rapist.

        As for the pedophilia, his various comments over the years sexualizing minors (including his own daughter), eyewitness accounts of him entering teen pageant dressing rooms unannounced, his close friendship with Epstein, and his general unwillingness to cooperate with releasing unredacted versions of the files are just about all the evidence you need to have a reasonable suspicion that he is involved with the trafficking or rape of children. Unfortunately we probably won’t know the whole truth until after he leaves office or dies because we live in a clown country where the chief executive is immune to consequences.