• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    Fucking hate how these shitheads take words from Tolkien’s works and bastardise them. Palantir, Anduril.

    What’s next, a social credit system named “Silmaril”? An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called “Rivendell”?

    Just fucking stop.

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      Tolkein’s idyllic structure for a society, the shire, is frequently analyzed through a lens of “is this anarchism?” and it’s not all that uncommon to conclude “yes”

      all these fuckers read Tolkien and adopted the imagery of the villains. none of them realize that the message is that all the top level people are addicted to power. the people who actually get shit done, the hobbits, they are tempted by power because it’s tempting, but ultimately value singing songs, making tea, and eating potatoes too much to want to possess the ultimate power in the universe. almost everyone who comes into contact with the one ring wants to possess it forever. Bilbo’s first desire for it is to use it to help him escape a dangerous situation. Frodo is indifferent to it at first. Sam immediately hates it, feels guilt for letting Frodo carry it alone, and commits himself to destroying it.

      You’re not supposed to read Tolkien and implement fascism. you’re supposed to read Tolkien and learn to value pacifism

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      I mean… Palantir showed Denethor false images of doom and despair fed by Sauron. It drove him to become a completely mad tyrant.

      I think Palantir is a very apt name. They just don’t realise why.

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      I think that’s a Thiel thing. Tolkein was was one of his obsessions growing up. It doesn’t surprise me that he saw a plot device intended to be a warning as a really cool idea…

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      I suspect they’re depending on data brokers who collect name and location from 3rd party apps. Set up fakes of a bunch of their metrics sending data, and you can fill it with junk

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    oh awesome, Palantir, the same company profiting off the genocide in Gaza

    CEO Alex Karp has been a vocal supporter of Israel. In November 2023, he stated, “I am proud that we are supporting Israel in every way we can.”

    After October 2023, Palantir has provided Israel with multiple AI-powered data analytics tools for military and intelligence purposes.

    In January 2024, Palantir held its board meeting in Israel and entered into a “strategic partnership” with Israel’s Ministry of Defense to help Israel’s “war effort.”

    In October 2024, Norway’s largest asset manager, Storebrand, divested its Palantir shares, worth $24 million, due to concerns that Palantir’s work for Israel might implicate Storebrand in violations of international humanitarian law and human rights.

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      The Palantir tools were used to analyze the data trove that Microsoft was hosting for Israel. It contained all of the cellular data (metadata and call recording/MMS contents/data traffic) for the entirety of Palestine.

      That tool’s detection of ‘terrorists’ was used to justify a massive portion of the air strikes on Palestine. Their beta test resulted in a genocide.

      Palantir is complicit in war crimes and genocide, never forget that.

      Now the fascists are using the terrorist language to target their political opponents in the US and using the same tools of genocide.

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        Microslop is still hosting for Israel, even more than before. Don’t believe Brad Smiths recent lies about their data centers being healthy for communities either.

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      Yeah, it’s wild how clearly we can see that Palestine is the world’s laboratory for surveillance and state violence tech and tactics.

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    Is it possible that people could use flock or palantir stuff to track and collect info on ice agents? Their security is shit, yeah?

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      ICE regularly uses fake license plates. You can do a bit, in that they dont swap constantly, but its not going to be as good as the tracking of private citizens

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    Every palantir executive and voting shareholder needs to be prosecuted and have their assets siezed to pay for the damage they’ve done to American democracy and the Palestinian people and infrastructure

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    Seems like Doge might have been setup to facilitate this. They are cross referencing data from the HHS database. Big Brother.

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      The actual point of DOGE was to just backdoor and/or datadump as many government databases as possible and give them to Palantir. That’s it. That was the entire point. Everything else was simply theatrics.

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    Let’s give credit where credit is due - This is what the GOP wants. They have complete ownership of ICE’s terrorist activities and applaud what is being done.

    Republicans could reign this in in a couple of days if ICE didn’t have their blessing. The same is true if our corporate/billionaire media began referring to what’s happening as GOP, rather than ICE activity.

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      My brother is a total Palintir supporter because he sees his stocks rising. I tell him he’s supporting evil but he says their CEO is a Democrat and has nothing to do with Thiel🙄. Like most Americans he’s ok with evil if it pays well.

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    HOW is a Private Company like PALANTIR able to Get such SENSITIVE information Though?

    -People who Get Upset at Privacy because they have Nothing To Hide TM!

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        Yeah pretty much, they’re basically, at their core, private contractors, whose nearly sole customer is governments.

        Governments outsourced the management and operations of the Torment Nexus, not because they were forced to or didn’t want or didn’t have the resources…

        … They were just too incompotent to do it themselves.

        So… yeah, now they’re now functionally part of the government, of multiple governments actually.

        This is how we … get to? Or have arrived at? … just actual cyberpunk dystopia, where the Corps just are, in every meaningful way, on top.

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        Prior to that they were able to function just fine by using non-classified data brokers which have access to every bit of data that can be extracted from every smart phone that has a single app that’s compromised by their spyware.

        Having access to even greater surveillance data (like the data that is gathered at TITANPOINTE and other oversea cable collection locations) just lets whoever is in charge more accurately target their political opponents.

        Like Snowden said in citizenfour, the collection capabilities of the NSA create a situation which would allow ‘turnkey totalitarianism’. Well, they’ve turned the key.

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    There should be some sort of halal version of popular ETFs that get rid of certain universally excepted evil companies. I just invest in QQQM, VTI, VOO, etc and forget, but I have a friend who buys stocks weighted by NASDAQ except for Palantir manually. Too much of a headache for me lol.

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      There is S&P 500 Shariah or if you’re christian there is S&P 500 Christian Values

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        I’m actually Sikh, but I would assume that Muslims, Christians, and Atheists alike, also share basic human values like don’t give money to companies that use child labor, sell weapons to terrorits, encourage dangerous addictions, etc. I don’t really care if the ETF is targeted towards a specific religion or not. My main gripe would be seeing their stock exclusion list for haram stocks are based on generic human values and not banning companies that sell pork for example.

        I did a bit of research online and think EVIF might be what I’m looking for.

        Maybe using the word Halal and Haram was confusing since those are Arab words so mostly used by Muslims and Christians.

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          I would say that if you eat chocolate, drink coffee or use any technology you most likely give money to companies that indirectly use child labor or poison the planet so all those indexes mean nothing to me. My reply was ironic, sorry for that.

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            Hey, this is called the Nirvana logical fallacy. Just because I do other unethical things in my life, that doesn’t mean buying an ethical ETF instead of a normal ETF is useless.

            For example, using the Nirvana logical fallacy, I could justify not going to the gym today because I already ate unhealthy food for lunch. It is impossible to be live a perfectly healthy life, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t focus on trying to be as healthy as possible within the confines of what we are willing to sacrifice.

            Same thing goes for living an ethical lifestyle.

            Hope this helps!

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        Is that ETF (SNAW) you linked your default buy? I am relatively young and new to investing. I have some QQQM but wanted to move to something more ethical (ESG) and more diversified. Next paycheck I’ll probably buy one of the ESG S&P 500 trackers like EFIV.

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          That was the default buy, yeah. Now it’s going into a non-US esg filtered one that I can’t remember.