Greenland’s prime minister has said “we choose Denmark” before high-stakes talks at the White House as Donald Trump seeks to take control of the Arctic territory.
Amid rising tensions over the US president’s push, Jens-Frederik Nielsen on Tuesday told a joint press conference with his Danish counterpart, Mette Frederiksen, that the island would not be owned or governed by Washington.
“We are now facing a geopolitical crisis. If we have to choose between the US and Denmark here and now, we choose Denmark, Nato and the EU,” Nielsen said, adding that the island’s “goal and desire is peaceful dialogue, with a focus on cooperation”.Trump’s pursuit of the island was also a matter of “international law and our right to our own country”, he said.
Calling it now. But, European politicians are so incredibly subservient to America. They will literally “give” Greenland to America before they dissolve NATO.
Or, America will just invade, and they’ll basically treat it like it didn’t happen. They’ll condemn it on paper. Say things like “this really puts into question blah blah blah” but they’ll literally take no material action against it. At best they have some meaningless vote in the UN about it that does nothing.
Europe is the equivalent of the Democratic party at this point. Just pointing at “bad thing” and going along with it entirely. All while trying to keep the “moral high ground”.
You guys should be burning down your cities if America takes Greenland and Europe does nothing. Your politicians are cowards just like ours are. Don’t expect them to do anything to resist.
I would agree, were this of far flung ‘allies’ like Taiwan. Europe might have let that happen. But Greenland is firmly within Europe. Everyone knows the fallout from such an invasion.
I think the generally unspoken hope is that democracy in the US is not completely fucked and that the transition to full-on fascism can still be reverted after Trump’s political or physical death (both of which seem ever so close).
You do realize that the US delegates so much of its arctic capabilities to the scandinavian countries in NATO that it would be a balanced fight at least in the beginning, right?
Given America’s obvious advantages with the scale of its military resources, I thought that the fight would be easy too, but after thinking about it I’m not so sure. War is not simply a matter of having advanced weapons and lots of units.
Considering how retarded Trump’s administration is and how demoralised the most professional and loyal military personnel are, combined with civil unrest domestically… I don’t think Trump can execute a successful invasion of another country without losing everything. More competent administrations (barely more*) have started wars and it cost them dearly in the ballot box.
You can have the best jets and ships and missiles, but if the personnel operating them think you are a pedophile and a traitor, giving illegal orders through a compromised chain of command… how effective do you think they will be in a theater of war?
Let’s hope we never find out.
I mean you just need to look at all the wars the USA has lost against much weaker countries. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, just to mention a few.
And the only wars they actually won in the more modern times were with the help of EU NATO allies.
They can’t do shit on their own. They’re only good at “strike and run away” operations, like the one in Venezuela.
We can insult the regime without restoring to abelist slurs.
How is that AT ALL relevant to what I said? Why are you discussing something that will literally never happen? The capitalist that own America also own Europe. That’s why your politicians are such subservient losers just like ours are. They are owned by the same interests. They’re just consolidating that ownership and making the lines clear. That’s all the Greenland play is. It’s to put your politicians in their place and ensuring they bend the knee to the fascist powers.
The capitalist that own America also own Europe.
Those same capitalists writing GDPR and Digital services act both in EU and US?
Or, America will just invade, and they’ll basically treat it like it didn’t happen.
Just don’t talk like you have a crystal ball, you people with your pseudointellectual cynicism have been very wrong before, multiple times.
So you think that there would be actual armed resistance to American invasion of Greenland? Like, I want to be clear. You’re that dumb?
I’m sorry. I write my comments for people with some form of intelligence. When I said “America just invades” I wrote that with the assumption that my reader had at least a minimal understanding of geopolitics. That this would just be literal a symbolic lowering and raising of the flag. Because no one is gonna die for Greenland mate.
Are you? Are you gonna volunteer? Go ask any European that same question. Ask them if they want to go defend Greenland and die for it.
I didn’t think there would actually be someone dumb enough to think there would be any meaningful form of armed conflict.
I don’t think there’s a need to be this condescending.
When Russia started the big invasion of Ukraine, the first thing I said in the morning was “fuck”. The second was “well, at least it will be over in a couple of days”. Because of course it will be, Russia is 4 times the population, has a bigger industrial base, a significant technological advantage, a giant land border with plenty of logistical connections, and nobody has given Ukraine any material support during the Crimea thing. And yet we’re coming up to the end of the fourth year of war with no end in sight for now. Plenty of europeans volunteered to help, some of them were nazis who wanted to kill russians, for sure, but not all of them.
And remember that Ukraine was barely considered Europe at that point, it’s still not in the EU or NATO.
So while I also think the most likely outcome is either a “sale” of some kind, or a bloodless 1-day “special military operation” and strong-worded letters, I won’t dismiss other possibilities straight out of the gate.
It will definitely speed up Europe’s decoupling from the US, and the only viable alternative partner is China, which would be a massive win for European communist and socialist parties. In the long term it will also speed up the destruction of the US empire’s power, which is a massive win for proletariat everywhere.
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