• Andrzej3K [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Tbh even if there was sufficient political will to pivot to China (there is some, and it is growing), people underestimate just how entangled European military structures are with the US via NATO. This is by design of course, and a situation EU atlanticists have historically been very happy with, but pulling out is no small ask.

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    China as commercial partner is way more reliable as the USA, apart the EU has finally approved Mercosur, creating with it the biggest common market in the world. The USA will lose all commercial partners in the future if they continue with their policies. The only problem is that there are still EU countries to submissive with the USA (Germany and some eastern countries).

    Meanwhile the USA on the way to an civil war

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    China is off doing naval drills with Russia in South Africa right now. They’re actively working against Europe in Ukraine. Not really a trustworthy partner for anything.

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        In yester-year China invaded their friends and allies India & Vietnam. Not long Before that Europe was inventing entirely new ways to shaft over the rest of the world. There’s really no such thing as a “trustworthy” partner in geopolitics, just Alligned incentives&ideologies

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      China is off doing naval drills with Russia in South Africa

      So are western countries as well and don’t see you crying about it?

      They’re actively working against Europe in Ukraine.

      Insisting sanctions to be decided in the UN and not unilaterally by the west when it’s NATO expansion that triggered the war is not working against Europe. Providing a framework for peace and trying to facilitate peace talks is not working against Europe. Being the largest trading partner of Ukraine is not working against Europe.

      Not really a trustworthy partner for anything.

      Europe and the US are right?

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        2 months ago

        I’m just stating facts. China is a geopolitical rival that cannot be trusted by the EU. Less militarily dangerous than Russia, but economically dangerous in every way.

        You seem very emotional about it though.

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          I’m just stating facts

          China is a geopolitical rival

          You’re just repeating western foreign policy you imperialist bootlicker. Imagine having a zero sum worldview dipshit