Looks like I’m spoiled for choice. Temu has exactly the same for 11.29. Not that I’d be purchasing from either place; it’s just another example of Amazon’s enshittification.

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      It’s because of the US patent and trademark office. Not many people are competing with those who slam their heads on the keyboard for their brand names.

      Amazon required a US trademarked brand name after the first bout of “el cheapo boot leg” products hit the news cycle (the pajamas on fire and hair curlers that would kill you), so we had these alphabet soup brand names ever since.

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        Amazon does not require a brand but having a brand allows the seller better access into amazing seller’s tools.

        Amazing incentivizes this shit and does not give a fuck about it. They could be easily detecting this using LLMs but they don’t because they only care so it profits.

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      There’s a reason for them! I can’t find the original video I saw about it, but this one explains it pretty well:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UrqlMfwUC4

      I also like how sarcastic this person sounds (at least to me) during their sponsor segment.

      edit: Removed the timestamp from the YouTube link.

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      My favourite one so far is “Hoement”

      “CTIRCHIU” sounds like an eldritch god

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    People need to realize that Amazon has them locked in.

    I needed a tall mini fridge for a garage. Cheapest I could find was fucking $700.

    I went into a nearby home appliance store and got the same one for fucking ~$200. Granted I had to pay for an $80 delivery, but it still beats the shit out of every option for a 7 cu ft fridge on Amazon.

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      Every dipshit with a freshly minted MBA thinks they’re going to go and disrupt the appliance industry by putting it online and snatching it out from under all those antiquated local dealerships run by out of touch old men who can barely operate a computer. They think they’re going to go from zero to nationwide tomorrow, and they’re so smart because nobody’s thought of it before.

      It turns out that dealing with the final mile with appliances is killer, and extremely difficult logistically. That makes the entire operation much more expensive than anyone thinks at first glance. Not just in terms of raw dollars and cents paid to disinterested common carriers to move your product from A to B (who also won’t install the stuff or even bring it inside your customer’s house) but also in damaged and returned products and angry screaming customers who will be initiating credit card chargebacks all the time whenever anything goes wrong.

      All of those little local dealerships have had decades to figure out how to move a refrigerator from their warehouse to your kitchen and how to remediate the situation if it all goes pear shaped on delivery day, and all of them only service their local territory for a reason. The further you stretch without some physical presence in where you’re stretching to, the more impossible it becomes to control the logistics.

      So yeah, that’s probably in no small part why your fridge would have been so expensive. Amazon is among the latest figuring this out the hard way, and you can’t just slap a refrigerator or a stove in a bubble mailer and dump it on somebody’s front porch.

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        Local appliance dealers likely also have a dude who in a pinch can just carry most appliances where they need to go.

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        Tangentially, this reminds me of some advice I read on whole home water filters. Get this one or get that one. but get it from a local business who’s been in your area for years and years. You will have a problem with it. You are going to need someone to call. And they say, just plan for that from the start.

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      Not to be that guy but there’s no way in hell that $700 is true. There are pages of fridges for less than $400 that are 7 cu ft.

      Here’s one for $300

      I mean, fuck Amazon and all that jazz, don’t get me wrong - I just feel like it’s worth noting the hyperbole. It’s not that bad, at least from an end consumer perspective.

      Amazon is admittedly powered by greed and the tears of the proletariat but they do a good job keeping the customer happy.

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        my 2 cents… not everybody sees the same prices at Amazon… that is part of their dynamic gouging

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          Just to add an anecdote… My friend is beyond millionaire as her father started a retail giant. Anyways, she has money coming out her ass and the prices Amazon shows her are almost consistently 30%-50% more than what they show me. Because they know she’s rich AF and they know I’m fairly poor.

          e: grammar

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              I don’t know what kind of setup my GF’s phone had going, but she loved hands-free features like “hi Google” or whatever it was.

              I specifically remember having a chit chat verbal conversation with her on her patio while her phone was laying there… and the next day products started getting recommended to me on my phone based on that convo.

              My phone at the time was turned off and in my backpack in the house. Somehow the back end logic sewed everything together.

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                I was studying classical guitar. I was practicing piece and literally YouTube video results on my PC for learning the piece before searching for it.

                Only network traffic to indicate was downloading a .PDF on my chrome browser on my phone. This was in like 2012.

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      Everyone is free to set their own priorities, but for me, I’ll just not purchase a thing at all, rather than buy it off Amazon. Most people buy too much crap they don’t actually need anyway.

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    This shit frustrates me to no end. These days I just look on Aliexpress first, just so I’m aware what the usual drop shipping item actually goes for.

    It’s very annoying that platforms like Amazon tolerate this. Because it’s actively driving me away from them. I want to see good quality items, not the same Aliexpress shit priced ten times higher. But I can’t FIND the good stuff because the platform is literally full of garbage.

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        People have no morals. Most people only care about the cheapest price, and after that getting the best item for the cheapest price

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          It’s also a question of availability. Looking at my last ten purchases, simply none of those were available locally here. We don’t HAVE a camera store here to buy things like lens caps. The stationary store where I went didn’t HAVE large elastic bands, only small ones. Nor did they have the specific Pentel gel pen that I use for work. The shoes I bought (US size 17) are not available, since stores don’t stock past size 13.

          I did buy a laptop stand, so technically I could’ve bought say, a plastic box or some books locally to do the same thing. But the stand is nicer.

          For me, it’s not about the price. I’d rather spend 10 for something great than 1 for something that sort of works. I am by no means cheap. But I do have specific needs and tastes that my local stores don’t cater to.

          And hey, if they won’t sell me what I need, I’m not going to feel bad about buying it somewhere that will 🤷‍♂️

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            Exactly my philosophy.
            I try to buy in this order (time and money is of no concern):
            Local shops -> domestic Online shops -> AliExpress (electronics) or Amazon (branded electronics like storage) -> Amazon (anything else).

            If it aint available for a decent price and I don’t need it, I won’t buy it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            Local vs amazon are not the only 2 options. And let me be very clear. I am not simply saying “Buy local”. Conflating that with ethical shopping is wrong.

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              Well ‘buy local’ tends to be the solution most people offer when this particular discussions arises. But I agree that only solves some issues. Especially since local shops also get that stuff from the same sources.

              I’m more of a ‘there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism’ kinda guy.

              But frankly, I’ve got too much going on to worry about the ethics of where I’m sourcing pens and notepads. I’d rather focus on the big things.

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    Honestly, my strategy for buying goods online is to look up the relevant wikipedia article, read the list of manufacturers, look at their own wikipedia pages or read customer reviews, then finally go to the company site and ordering directly.

    For used items or niche items not widely produced, ebay or craigslist.

    Amazon always had funky shit with how they recommended things - now people just know how to game it more, so winning move is not to play there.

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      Check out an app called Karrot. It’s basically craigslist but you periodically have to confirm your location, so you know all items are local. It also has a shockingly accurate photo identification and pricing feature.

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      I’m not going into such depth (unless it’s technology I don’t understand), but I usually shop on Amazon after I figured out what exactly I wanted, and what price below other stores I was willing to pay. I found that only two categories I still overwhelmingly purchase from Amazon are books and branded art supplies.

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        I don’t know where you are located so this may not apply to you, but in the US for branded art supplies I always go with DickBlick or Jerry’s Artorama, because in addition to the usual “stick it in a bubble bag and see how damaged we can make it before it arrives” Amazon shipping policy, branded art supplies are now being counterfeited on Amazon, like so many other things.

        I already could not safely buy liquids (Gamsol, OMS, etc) or soft supplies (paper or canvas pads, single watercolors) because of careless shipping, but now I won’t even try because of counterfeits. If you want the branded version of something that already has budget knockoffs, say an item like Holbein or Caran d’Ache colored pencils where the real thing is vastly more expensive than others in its category, you’re taking your chances on Amazon. Amazon has been selling counterfeit fountain pens for years, even low end pens like Lamy Safaris which always blew my mind, but now it’s a lot of things in the art supply world.

        So now I only get cheap knockoffs there, anything under $50. Anything over that, or anything liquid or bendable/breakable, I go with a real art supply store. It’s absolutely worth it, they pack it all very carefully, excellent return service when I’ve needed it, and I can still pick up deals better than Amazon without ever having to worry about the possibility it’s a counterfeit and I just wasted hundreds on a scam.

        If you’re not in the US you may be having a markedly better experience, so disregard. But in the US, Amazon for branded art supplies is a big NO for me.

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          I’m in Ireland, shopping mainly in the UK Amazon. I buy there mainly mid-range supplies, and I have a few physical stores in continental Europe where I get the more expensive stuff. But flying with anything liquid or large paper pads is almost as risky as having them shipped from Amazon, with the added bonus of my wife complaining that I take up too much weight in the suitcase with my “useless toys”.

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            Yeah, you’re definitely getting a better experience in Ireland with both Amazon and Temu/AliExpress, so I don’t blame you. Kinda have to cross your fingers and hope for the best, or have it shipped with all the added shipping costs: no truly good options. But people who don’t do a lot of art will never understand why you have to have so many different supplies, or why one paint is not the same as another, or why paper isn’t just paper, and “But you already have fifteen blues!” Yeah, and now I’m about to have sixteen, lol. Just the way it is.

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    It’s missing the random “Amazon’s Choice” badge on one of the 20 identical choices 🤣

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    I deleted my Amazon account last month. No more Goodreads and IMDb is just another plus.

    Extracted my ebooks from my Kindle with Calibre, so I am fine.

    Feeling good and less targeted and bombarded.

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      Having really hard time converting Kindle books lately, especially since last time I tried this, the deDRM plugin couldn’t handle the newest Kindle for PC versions. Is there an easy way that doesn’t involve getting a physical Kindle device? Does the Android thing work?

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        I suppose the easiest way is installing an old kindle for PC version, if that’s the problem (not through the kindle website)

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        Google Play Books allows publishers to set the DRM policy. Some titles are not protected and can be just downloaded as EPUB. For the DRMed books, it can send them to Adobe’s ebook reader/sync app, which (last I checked) can be decrypted by the Calibre deDRM plugin.

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        Calibre is a program for Windows/Linux. To be able to export books (and deDRM them) there are different plugins, but I never heard about one for Google Play Books.

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    The internet was so good in 08. You searched for stuff, found exactly what you needed, and were done.

    Poor kids today will never know anything other than ad ridden bot corponet.

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      The internet was so good in 08. You searched for stuff, found exactly what you needed, and were done.

      Shit was bad in 2008, too. The degree to which drop shippers had consolidated down to one mega-wholesaler rather than a dozen crappy fly-by-nights hadn’t happened yet. You got a dozen different flavors of crap rather than just one. But it was still crap.

      Poor kids today will never know anything other than ad ridden bot corponet.

      Under an Amazon keyword search, sure. You can still find good quality products outside of Amazon. You can even find it inside Amazon if you know what you’re looking for.

      The difference between 2008 and 2025 is primarily that Amazon’s algorithmic tools have degraded to the state of Yahoo or Sears.

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        You think normal people today go outside the 5 walled garden corpo sites?

        They dont.

        They are terrified of an html website. I dont have tech friends irl, so trust me. The real internet, the original non corpo net, is only for ultra nerds now.

        If you seriously think the internet is better now than 08 ish, well I dont agree.

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          If you seriously think the internet is better now than 08 ish, well I dont agree.

          I think it’s heavily predicated on what you’re using the Internet for. In the business world, we’ve improved system redundancy, backup/recovery, and transfer speeds by leaps and bounds.

          Back in 2008, I was in my car driving to Dallas to escape Hurricane Ike, with a trunk full of server hardware needed to keep our business running. Datacenter proliferation has fully eliminated the need to do anything like that again.

          We have significantly more high speed broadband. We have superior wireless connectivity. HTML5 is much better than it’s predecessors. We’ve modernized APIs and broadly adopted JSON for transmission. The hardware is so much better, from phones to routers to raspberry pis for self-hosting.

          I get you don’t like the current content of big Web 2.0 publishers. But you’re really missing the forest for a few big ugly trees

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    So I just got a steam deck… A little birthday present to myself.

    My local microcenter sells nothing for it… Neither does best buy. And if best buy did I wouldn’t over pay anyway at that failing store.

    So… Amazon it is. 40 bucks and two days later I have a silicone case, anti glare screen protector and a cheapo dock.

    I didn’t want to get all that shit off amazon… It was just the most convenient place and in my case the only place.

    If anything amazon needs to crack down on these bs Chinese sellers.

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      I haven’t bought anything at Amazon for like 6 or 7 years now. Alternatives always exist, but you have to look for them. So many people act like there is no option but to submit to Jeff

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        Like what? 2x the price for worse hardware?
        Feels like the only alternative for reasonable priced stuff is AliExpress (in regards to electronics)

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      Sometimes Amazon has the stupid low priced widget that I need, at a lower price than anywhere else, with next day delivery…

      Like… Fuck…

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        They have a most favored nation policy, meaning that people who sell on their platform can’t have a lower price anywhere else than what they have on their platform.

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    More and more I’m finding things I want either aren’t on amazon or are buried under so many inferior products that they are hard to find. Earlier I was looking for geek themed ugly Christmas sweaters, and the ones on the first few pages of amazon results were absolute garbage. Found several viable suppliers elsewhere in no time.

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      Amazon’s going through the same enshitification cycle as Sears and JC Penny did a decade ago.

      It’s not a question of “Will people stop using Amazon?” but “Will people start using <X>” where X is better than Amazon. Solve for X.

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    Almost everything on Amazon is cheap trash, and they promote the hell out of all that trash instead of products of any quality. I am also so sick of the click funnels where you search for a specific item and they just give you pages full of knockoff trash as search results even if you go to a specific brand store. It’s nonsense.

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      I stayed away for a few years, ended up buying a fair bit more frequently when doing up the house just due to cost and delivery but the site does look exactly like any other slop store now. It looks like chinavasion or alibaba.