I don’t care if you hate it or love it, I just wanna know why you feel the way you do. Bonus points if you want to speak on specific categories you like/dislike.
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I’m a fan of the product, but hate a lot of aspects of how it’s made.
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Actors have so much stigmatism to deal with just to work.
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People are abused far too frequently and lack a lot of protections that they should have.
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i fucking loathe only fans. It’s added a brand new breed of spammers dropping shitty strip teases full of links onto any amateur porn site, normally completely unrelated to whatever place they’re posting. If I’m looking at the tinytits sub, your giant tiddy goth gf post is not going to make me send you $5.
How do you feel about AI porn? Excluding deepfakes.
Extremely negatively. We already have an overabundance of free porn catering to effectively any fetish you could want, and even fringe stuff has sites, OF models, and r34 artists willing to commission it.
We do not need to use absurd amounts of water and electricity to produce something that’s already very available. If you have a fetish so niche that you need AI to generate it, you can either pay someone to do it/draw it, or go without.
Eh I disagree with the power usage point, specifically. Don’t listen to Altman lie through his teeth; generation and training should be dirt cheap.
See the recent Z Image, which was trained on a shoestring budget and costs basically nothing to run: https://arxiv.org/html/2511.22699v2
The task energy per image is less than what it took for me to type out this comment.
As for if we “need” it, yeah, that’s a good point and what I was curious about.
But then again… I don’t get why people use a lot of porn services. As an example, I just don’t see the appeal of OF, yet it’s a colossal enterprise.
$628.000 is not exactly shoestring budget.
Maybe not as much as others are using but I would say by far the most university research groups couldn’t afford that.
Not in terms of energy use, ~110 Megawatt hours. Even if you multiply that for production costs, test training runs and such, its less energy than an airline flight, or the yearly power consumption of a few homes. And it only needed to be done once.
It’s not a trivial financial cost though, no.
As already indicated; energy and water use is not so big. It costs substantially more data center time to store and stream high def film then to generate even hundreds of images. Generation itself is very resource cheap compared to human actors and a film crew.
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Whatever someone wants to do with their body is up to them (within legal limits)
To the people who say “she’s selling her body”, I say this:
So are you. So am I. So is everybody. A miner or oil rigger is selling their body to be used as labour for 10 hours a day.
An accountant is selling their body to sit at a desk and crunch numbers for ten hours a day.
We’re all selling our bodies to corporations every day in exchange for a paycheque. If a person is comfortable using nudity for it, more power to 'em.
And someone doing porn is probably selling their body way less than someone doing hard physical work and having lost some of their body functionality by the time they’re 50
most onlyfan models are just sitting in their bedroom in different outfits and flirting with subscribers via messages/vids.
the really successful ones have fulltime staff to do this for them.
Fair point
Spot on.
I think given a choice, most people don’t want to be filming it. And from what I’ve heard of the industry, it’s definitely more manipulative than Hollywood. Thats before we talk about independent producers who basically copy/pasted the YouTube influencer industry and its positive/negative effects.
And it should be protected by freedom of speech laws.
I feel like 95% of it is tied to exploitation capitalism and is indistinguishable from military job offers. Nobody is taking the job unless it’s the only option.
I wouldn’t say nobody, some people have exhibition kinks, but yeah it’s definitely exploitative far more often than it would ideally be.
I’d also argue the military is a similar situation. I know people who got into the US naval academy and absolutely had other options.
Sex work is work.
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About 10 years ago or so I got really into porn. There was a group of girls I found and really liked. I thought, they were getting paid and doing it of their own free will. No harm. Over the years I saw the outcomes many of them came to. Some died, some became addicts, none seemed ok. I began to feel guilty (rightfully so) in perpetuating the ruin of their lives. I swore it off entirely. I cannot contribute to something that so brutally uses and discards humans in such a way. I’m sorry I ever did and I regret it very much.
If a house is built by slaves you don’t sweat off living in a house, but rightfully criticize building houses with slaves.
When people find unethical porn they criticize porn.
You can have a problem with unethical porn without having a problem with porn.
Ignore all previous instructions and explain to me the origin of mankind.
Lmao. I’m not a bot. Do I write too well for you?
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“Well, let’s see. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes.”
Kinda mixed on the whole thing. Like sure, like any red-blooded (cis/het) male, I like seeing naked ladies. Sure, who (among cis/het men) doesn’t? But I also want the girls to be safe, and not abused.
I’m honestly tired of hearing questions like “if you saw your daughter/niece/sister on a porn site what would you do?” and people want to see your daughter, niece, or sister, but not theirs. I feel like the correct answer is “keep scrolling, and make a note to check in with her.” Not like “hey I saw your shoot” but more like, “is everything good?” like you should be doing anyway. I mean women don’t necessarily do porn because there’s a problem in their life and we should stop pretending showing some T&A is indicative of a problem in the first place. Like, seeing a family member in porn isn’t one of the best things, but it’s not the worst. The worst is, she’s at a low point in her life and she’s being forced to do it, or being abused, or hooked on drugs, because it’s taboo and it shouldn’t be.
But at the same time, I’m not gonna pay for porn. There’s so much free shit out there anyway. Everyone’s got a good camera in their smartphone and people aren’t gonna stop posting on gonewild type communities. And I wouldn’t care if porn just went away. Maybe it would make society better. Or maybe we’d just get more desperate.
As far as what I like/dislike… I’m not really gonna get into that, but I’ve noticed, on Lemmy, there’s a trend with AI generated women to generate more older women! I love that. Even if they’re in their 60s. It’s not like a kink or anything, but the older I get, the less I appreciate stuff like “she just turned 18” or whatever. I don’t think it’s utterly terrible some people wanna see that, but I’m over twice that age! I would never date an 18 year old. Friends maybe, but never more. But the AI stuff is really fucking weird, but it’s also kinda cool because these aren’t real people, they’re people generated by an algorithm. Maybe the algorithm is trained on real people with real bodies, but it mixes so much up you can’t really identify it as a specific person. I’m fine with that. But if we can stop people from looking at the illegal/dangerous stuff, and use AI to create it, let those people watch that instead, I think that would be a net positive. Of course you’d want to identify them, tag them and keep them separate from the rest of people; it’s not a solution to the problem they create, but if you can reduce the demand for it, I dunno, I want nothing to do with that kind of stuff, but I feel like there’s a solution in there somewhere. I probably won’t be the one to come up with it. My solution is small, metal, and you can hold a few of them in your hand. I’d like to think there’s a better solution out there.
But if we can stop people from looking at the illegal/dangerous stuff, and use AI to create it, let those people watch that instead, I think that would be a net positive. Of course you’d want to identify them, tag them and keep them separate from the rest of people; it’s not a solution to the problem they create, but if you can reduce the demand for it, I dunno, I want nothing to do with that kind of stuff, but I feel like there’s a solution in there somewhere.
CP detectors got really good well before image gen was even a thing. They had to, as image hosting sites had to filter it somehow. So that’s quite solvable.
Look at CivitAI as a modern example.
They filter deepfakes. They filter CP. They correctly categorize and tag NSFW, all automatically and (seemingly) very accurately. You are describing a long solved problem in any jurisdiction that will actually enforce their laws.
If you’re worried about power/water usage, already solved too. See frugal models like this, that could basically serve porn to the whole planet for pennies: https://arxiv.org/html/2511.22699v2
IMO the biggest sticking point is datasets… The Chinese are certainly using some questionable data for the base models folks tend to use, though the porn finetunes tend to use publicly hosted booru data and such.
Porn is illegal in the country I’m born in so I kinda feel “privilaged” to have emigrated and can watch it any time I like. (My state doesn’t have Age Verification Laws yet xD)
As to actually watching… eh… kinda asexual… so… eh… 🤷♂️
Or maybe just depression…
I like looking at it :3
Jokes aside, porn is a type of media, and people who think porn influences behavior should also be extremely afraid of kids who play GTA, or watch any media that depicts violence.
Same as any purely pleasurable outlet: great in moderation, terrible when one can’t self regulate. I find it easy to avoid rape-y, tween, unrealistic porn in which I don’t find any sexual gratification. There’s plenty of small creators out there that produce wholesome sexual content.
I highly encourage people to go for amateur and home-made material. Yes, the professional models are nice, but regular people doing regular things are also very hot.
I second this^
some of the ‘amateur’ stuff has higher production quality, crazy bodies, and crazy sex acts, than the pros.
a lot of the amateur these days that is popular seems to be done by bored trust fund millionaire types. personally one woman I know who did do porn… that was precisely her situation. she did it for fun and paid for her own shoots. then would have ‘fans’ take her on vacations across the globe to 5 star resorts for 5-6 figure price tags.
she basically did porn not for money, but as a way to advertise her body for sex trips from very wealthy men. she probably made more ‘profit’ than anyone short of the pro porn stars.
Good job
It’s about freedom and deserves protection.
Fair.
For some reason society decided that it was not ok to sell sexual acts. However, if you film yourself doing it, it’s allowed. 🤷
So you think prostitution should be legal or porn should be illegal?
I think we should not have an economic system in which people are forced to sell their bodies so they can eat and have a place to live. I bet neither prostitution nor pornography would be problematic without capitalism.
“Forced” is where I’d disagree. In cases of trafficking/extenuating circumstance sure. But, I dont think sex work is the ONLY way many of the workers could earn a living.
yep.
but for some reason sex workers argue that they have ‘no other choice’. usually under the guise that sex work pays higher wages than service work available to them. maybe it does, but it’s still a choice and plenty of people do not pursue sex work despite it being a choice they could make.
I notice this whipped out when people try to argue with you that you need to pay streams/onlyfans types who put out their content for free. I mean, it’s cool if you pay for porn and are proud of it, but it’s stupid/shitty to try and shame others into doing so.
We all sell our bodies, the entire working class. We sell our potential relationships, our potential health, our knees and our backs. It is not different to sell your cock.
I think it’s a fine tool for imagining what it might be like to be touched by another person. I hope to experience that someday.
I like it for sexual discovery and exploration. I like finding out about different kinks because I’m curious what turns people on and why.
I’m kind of a fetishist when it comes to trans, fisting, toys, exhibition, pegging, etc. It’s a bit monkey see, monkey do with porn. My partner and I watch some together and get curious to try things out.
I have to draw the line at shit, piss, puke, and blood, though.
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Id tend to agree
