• Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca
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    28 days ago

    If they want me to run Windows 11 then drop the specs as I am not buying a new computer. This one will either run Windows 10 until I die or it will run linux until I die. I am not buying a new computer at my age.

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      28 days ago

      That’s IMO a big part of what’s different between the 7 transition and this one. Last time Microsoft was going around upgrading people’s computers for them, and even if people didn’t want to jump to 10 right away, they allowed Win 7, 8, and 8.1 keys to activate it pretty much whenever. Now with their hardware requirement, they’re official line is telling people without TPM that their hardware is junk when they stop supporting Win 10. That drove people to look for the better alternative Microsoft won’t tell you about.

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      27 days ago

      The TPM2 requirement is purely to drum up sales for hardware vendors and ensure that they keep bundling Windows with their machines.

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      28 days ago

      new systems came forced for a while now. you’d have to go out of your way to put 10 on and most can’t be bothered

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        27 days ago

        They come with W11 but I wouldn’t say users are forced to use it. My first boot is always into the Debian netinstaller.

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      28 days ago

      it was at 50 percent in aug 2024’s survey… that last 15 percent to 65 took over a year to achieve.

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      28 days ago

      🤷‍♂️ I bought my old PC in 2020, got Windows 10 for it. 11 was a free upgrade via Windows Update, so I just updated. I’m here wondering how old everyone’s PC is who are gamers. Bought a new PC this year, left my Windows M.2 stick in the old PC, did a new installation of Arch in the new PC, and left the old Arch install as a media server.

      Are people daily driving and gaming on like 10-year old systems? When did those TPM modules become common in CPUs?

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        27 days ago

        Yep. I only got some extra SSD, RAM, and upgraded my graphics card in the last 10 years. I can’t ― nor do I care to — play modern AAA so it’s been fine. Also, even if I were to just upgrade my whole system tomorrow, it wouldn’t be for using W11.

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          27 days ago

          even if I were to just upgrade my whole system tomorrow, it wouldn’t be for using W11.

          Right, but if you did, you’d pick W11, I assume, if you’re a Windows user? No reason to choose an abandoned version.

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            27 days ago

            I suppose so, since I wouldn’t really have a choice.

            Thankfully, I’ve said good bye to Windows a few months back already.

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    28 days ago

    I wouldn’t be so reluctant to upgrade if they didnt try to force onedrive down my throat. I do no want that shit.

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    28 days ago

    Why upgrade when you can get another year of updates? You don’t even have to have a MS account if you know what large rocks to look under.

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    28 days ago

    Well, if the alternative is the awful Windows 11, then no thanks.

    Too bad I can’t use Linux, for many reasons.

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    27 days ago

    My dual boot will remain W10IOT until that one is EOL too. Even then I’ll see if there’s a way too only allow steam downloads for the very few games I care that will not work properly (last I checked, only one, and works on deck so it’s a matter of time, of not already working)

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      26 days ago

      How did you activate Win 10 IOT? I want to switch on my gaming PC but I can’t figure out how to get a license that isn’t crazy expensive

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        26 days ago

        I didn’t. There was a script to remove the watermark. I’ll look for it later, ping me here in cases I forget

  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    28 days ago

    I still see winXP on things every once in a while. 10 won’t be dead and buried for at least another decade, if not longer