• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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      You’re right that voting is a tool; you’re wrong about whose tool it is and what it’s used for.

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          You are fundamentally confused such that you think there’s any agency in voting in the first place. The only real impact it has is to completely short circuit and subsume all political activity away from any outside organizing that is, historically, literally the only thing that has ever worked to accomplish anything.

          My goal is this is a forum. Someone says something wrong and then you say the correct thing under them. That’s what you do on forums.

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              You literally voted to escalate a genocide because the system you’re playing apologist for presented you no other choice. What misinformation am I spreading? You’re the one acting as an enemy of liberation. You literally voted for a genocide. You are literally an ally to our oppressors.

              It’s honestly fucking frightening how you’re capable of that kind of doublethink.

              And you’re not just an ally of our oppressors in that sense. You want to waste YEARS of time PER ELECTION of people who would otherwise be doing tangible good in their communities working outside of the genocidal system you cap for.

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                  BlueMAGA continues to insist that, because they denied the extent of the genocide when it was their team doing it, the genocide actually wasn’t that bad when it was their team doing it.

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              Last election the choice was between Palestinian genocide and Palestinian genocide. You are smoking crack if you think the oligarchy is ever going to provide you with a meaningful choice to loosen their hold on you through the civic ritual of voting.

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                  So you knowingly voted to throw Palestinians under the extermination bus, is that it? And you consider yourself to be on the right side of history? And you never considered that perhaps your slavish ideological devotion to following the rules of a fascist political system was slow-boiling you into a fascist?

                  Ukranian genocide

                  You’re talking about the ten years of ethnic cleansing the Ukranian nazi government was doing to ethnic Russians within its borders, right? You wouldn’t possibly consider yourself to be against genocide while supporting these guys, right? Because nobody could possibly be that deluded, right? Tell me you’re not that programmed.

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                  but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look at Trump and conclude that he’s infinitely worse

                  This line is smoking gun proof that everyone in this thread trying to engage with you is talking exclusively over your head.

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                  You people really are hell bent on reducing the word “genocide” to meaninglessness

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              There it is. If you’re not a liberal you’re personally getting checks written by Putin or whomever’s the villain of the month.

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              No, we’re calling for the overthrow of our oppressors. We’re calling for seizing the means of production. We’re calling for real and permanent liberation from the bourgeoisie.

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                  I don’t care whether you vote, and I’m not telling anyone whether or not to vote. But I am pointing out how little power it gives us for the amount of time, money, and energy people are putting into it. The juice ain’t worth that much squeeze. We’re never going to vote ourselves out of wage slavery.