I am not criticizing them, I’m just out of the loop.

  • @paenusbreth@lemmy.world
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    The issue I have with this is that publicly expressing their love for others is an extremely natural and normal thing to do. Talking openly about your opposite-gender spouse, kissing or holding hands with your partner, going out for a nice date - whatever. These are all totally normal things which people won’t blink at when a heterosexual couple is doing it, yet LGBT people can still be discriminated against for these behaviours. That’s not even getting into trans or gender-non-conforming people, who can be discriminated against simply for existing and presenting the way they do.

    I don’t just want to ensure that LGBT people are free from explicit legislative discrimination. I want them to be free from social discrimination as well. Social consequences for being publicly gay are not acceptable, even if people aren’t in favour of more open forms of discrimination.

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    Why is there such a large amount of Nazi, fascist, conservative, Republican, and bootlicking related posts on other platforms compared to the Fediverse?

  • @sleepmode@lemmy.world
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    Because the people that flock to these platforms first are usually technically adept nerds and free thinkers.

  • Bob
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    There aren’t nearly as many right wingers and fascists as social media makes you believe. Speaking as a Mastodon instance admin, every single time we’ve had huge waves of bot and/or troll signups they’ve been very clearly right wing accounts (almost all had similar bios) that almost immediately started interacting with and boosting each other as well as harassing trans and queer people.

    The thing about the fediverse is that it can’t be manipulated the way centralized social media can. So what happens is that it gets handled very quickly. They get banned and their instances get defederated so all they can do is shout into the void. They’re not, nor have they ever been, the majority by any stretch of the imagination, and most people have absolutely no desire to hear what they have to say at all.

    On top of that, a huge number of them are grifters, and they won’t get any engagement here. They can’t get the kind of viral outrage they need because most people aren’t even seeing their posts.

      • @Proweruser@feddit.de
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        Same problem in Germany (just worse) right now, but we should still remember that 12 or even 20% are far from the majority. They are very good at shouting so loud that you could think there are more, but there aren’t. They only have as much power as we give them.

      • @madcaesar@lemmy.world
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        25% of any population is pure lunatics.

        Another 25% are just dumb as rocks.

        Then you got about 35% of average decent people.

        Then you have 10 % of just awesome people.

        5% rich sociopaths

        10% other

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        I was talking about social media specifically.

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      I wonder how long it’s gonna take for the elites to start trying to pull a Conservapedia on the Fediverse? Cause, you know, all that engagement with non-conservative ideas can’t be organic, right? It’s clearly manipulated by the cabal or something, and we gotta have BaLaNcE.

  • @klay@lemmy.world
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    in a word, intersectionality. you’re getting people who were already looking for an excuse to ditch reddit and twitter, and of that group, you’re selecting the ones with the most tech literacy. That tends to overlap people with progressive politics.

  • @paddirn@lemmy.world
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    I don’t know if it’s just Reddit and Lemmy, but it feels like the internet in general just started trending heavily towards transgender-related stuff in the past few years. Just references to Femboys and trans flags all over the place, it’s kind of weird how quickly it gained such traction. I don’t have any problem with the trans community, if any of my kids came out as LGBTQ+, I would love them just as much. In high school I literally wore dresses and got beat up and made fun of for being different (more for the punk/goth aesthetic), so I’ve had some understanding of what they go through, even if I don’t identify with any of it personally. I sympathize with what they’re going through right now given that an entire political party has decided to turn them into scapegoats.

    And I think it’s great that they’re building a community around themselves and are able to find other people that accept them for who they are, but I find their online communities tend to be incredibly hostile and militant to anybody that is less than completely loyal to the cause. Even just asking questions, giving opinions, or commenting any sort of criticism of their militant behavior gets you banned if you’re not 150% supportive. Anything you say is twisted around to make it seem like you’re a bigot who completely hates trans people and you’re essentially a nazi. It tends to be incredibly negative, like they’re looking to be outraged at the slightest provocation. Their tactics tend to be incredibly heavy-handed, just absolutely no tolerance for Cisgender people not understanding their lifestyle.

    So I’ve just started blocking trans and furry content because I just don’t care to see it. It’s just not my bag, nothing against people that are in that community. The same way nobody else would really care to see if I made posts glorifying heterosexuality and being a boring vanilla binary white guy, I’m just not interested in celebrating lifestyle choices simply for the sake of celebrating it. I’ll go to LGBTQ+ weddings and I’ll defend anybody’s right to love whomever they want or be whatever they want to be, but I just have other things I’m more interested in reading about. Board games, science, technology, politics, climate change, graphic design, art, music, movies, and whatever else other than someone else’s sexual identity. Maybe that makes me closed-minded, I don’t know, I thought the point was equality?

  • @amaranthe@lemmy.world
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    because the fediverse is a place where the admins choose to federate with whoever they want and get to choose what are the policies in their own instances. so you got a chance to stop the hatred and harrasment trans people are victim of on other social plateform where the company don’t want to dive into “political” stuff

    it’s kind of a safe space online for trans and lgbt for that reason

    • Izzy
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      I just hate ads and want the ad driven internet to die.

        • @Delphia@lemmy.world
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          I think that a lot of people forget that collectively all the english as a first language countries added together dont add up to the population of china or india. So the algorithm which doesnt discriminate based on language just feeds us the aggregate.

          I try not to get annoyed at the tankies. If my government would fuck my life up and disappear my family for talking shit about them, Id probably play along too.

          • @Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world
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            This is actually an interesting take.

            And, I almost tend to agree. They’re awfully tough to digest, even with empathy. Their tactics are… bad?

            It’s almost like an abused animal that you’d like to help. But, it’s such a threat that you kinda have to leave it be. Every time you try to feed it, it bites and scratches you,and everyone around you.

            At some point, despite the empathy, you just let it starve.

    • @SynopticVision@lemmy.world
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      This is the right answer. Of course marginalized groups tend to colonize new communities, because the big platforms, both because of their top-down structuring Nd because of the people who are on them, aren’t always welcoming.

      This is different from Voat tho. Voat was explicitly made to be a “free speech zone” i.e. a “let’s say nazi shit because nobody can censor us”-space. The fediverse’s idea is simply not to be dependent on centralised platforms, it says nothing about the content. If it happens to be left leaning, it’s because left leaning people tend to care more about stuff like right to privacy and centralisation.

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        It really seems like all “free speech” social sites are really just places for racism to flourish.

  • @aloeha@lemmy.world
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    Not sure about transgender posts, but the communist posts are probably because other platforms are owned by huge corporations, and huge corporations generally don’t like communism. Lemmy can never be bought by a huge corporation (at least not entirely).

      • @psud@lemmy.world
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        If you don’t understand why that is not true of things like lemmy, you do not understand lemmy

        lemmy cannot be bought in the same way that Linux cannot be bought. You may buy an instance (or a distro) but that doesn’t (and can’t) get you the whole lot. Anyone could start a new instance, thwarting your bid to collect all the users

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    Lemmy is a free open source software project. People into FOSS like the idea of something being built by a community to the benefit of everyone and not being controlled by any one person or company who could seek to benfit only themselves. It makes sense that their political ideology mirrors that.

    FOSS and just programming and tech in general have an unusually large number of trans people. I’m going to be honest, I’m not exactly sure why. I can only assume because programmers are judged based on their code and not their appearance.

  • @randon31415@lemmy.world
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    Gays are to Boomers as Trans is to Gen-X ers. I’ve been wondering what the marginalized group Millennials are going to have trouble with. My current guess is Poly, but that is just a guess at this point.

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      Groups I have trouble with as a millennial:

      • Fascists and neo-nazis
      • Groups which manufacture outrage that marginalize others (This can sometimes be focused/hidden inside of “_____ rights” groups, ironically)
      • Anti-intellectuals
      • Fringe extremists both on the left & right. They wrap around and are more like each other than they are to their “side”

      One thing I don’t understand is certain types of slang but I understand that’s more a result of not being exposed to it regularly then anything else.

      Ofc I don’t understand people that identify as a dog, or a snake, or a duck. But they are free to do them, as long as they don’t try and force that on me (ie. Inconveniencing others/trying to be the main character by being unprofessional in the work place, or making life harder for services/people that don’t cater specifically to them…etc). I think that applies generally to anyone, but you seem to have to walk on eggshells if the person who is being a dick is of some other nature, as if that excuses the behavior.

      While writing this I had an epiphany. My biggest gripes are harmless groups who are viewed as fragile, who are able to get away with behavior/actions that others cannot because others don’t want to be viewed as _____Phobic and lynched. Empowering some of them to, generally, be assholes. That’s what I can’t stand.

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      Millennial here, no hate towards poly-folk. Seems exhausting, but do you boo.

      I expect it will be something AI related, like wanting them to have rights or whatever as they approach mimicking human behavior and appearing being alive (see, did it there). Likely because of a decade or so of us being economically threatened, and not viewing them as things that can think/'feel/not-want-to-die or whatever.

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    The way I understand from what I’ve seen and read is that these are mostly people who were banned, shunned or chased away from other platforms. While Reddit can ban you, you can just spin up an instance of Lemmy, Mastodon or whatever yourself and play by your own rules.

    Interestingly, on Reddit there were tons of trans related posts and comments, but what I see here (and other fedi platforms) is trans people posting whatever interests them, and not about being trans. It’s like they can just be themselves without people constantly talking about or questioning their identity.

  • gon
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    IDK, I see tons of left and trans content on YT and Twitter, for example. That is because that’s the type of content I like, and the type of people I follow. I suspect what you’re noticing isn’t so much the presence of communism and trans people, but the absence of dumb shit.

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      Not an especially intolerant of others group.

      It’s less which group applies to me, it’s which group do I not mind sharing a space with.

      I can look at a trans post and either think lol or I don’t get it.

      I see a fascist/racist post and not think it’s funny, and that it makes me kind of sad.