• arsCynic@lemmy.ml
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      where do you put the cars then

      Into the car-to-bike conversion machine; FuckCars™.

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      Underground if you really need them. In a city, a lot of people won’t need cars every day.

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      To some people the question of “where do you put the cars?” is more important than the question “where do we house the people?”

      It’s bizarre.

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        to be fair there is enough vacant homes already in a lot of the metropolises around the world. just poorly distributed.

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          There is a lot of vacant houses. When you narrow that down to “long term vacancies in metropolises” the number goes down , and by no small amount

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        I’m convinced that to many Americans, there’s no difference, and that their mental image of a person includes four wheels. (And that a human without a car is not a person, as in, not deserving of moral comsideration.)

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          I’m convinced that many people who’ve never lived in the southern USA have absolutely no concept of how viable public transportation doesn’t fucking exist, yet housing is typically 30-40 minutes from where business center locations are.

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            Yeah that’s a stupid way to build towns and cities, and should change. But the south tends to vote Republican, so that’s just going to make everything worse. (Not that Democrats are amazing, but it’s like squares and rectangles.)

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              Do people typically live that close to where they work though? All my coworkers live out of town, 30 min to 2 hours away by car.

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              Never been to Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Tampa, or any city in the south huh?

              You’re pretty much who my comment was about. My comment wasn’t in response to a picture, it was in response to uninformed people.

              There’s a TON of people in the south that cannot escape for financial reasons. They’d much rather not have to drive everywhere. I’m 100% against victim shaming, which is what I took SwingingTheLamp’s comment to be.

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            You say that like the reason for those things isn’t because of the design of the cities. It is exactly advocating for the car centric design that keeps it car centric down here. Sincerely somebody who’s lived in the south their whole life but doesn’t think cars should define your life

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            Yeah, I have to spend two hours on the bus when it takes half an hour to drive downtown. They have great bus service if you’re within walking distance of the downtown area, but until earlier this year the last bus home left the station at 4p. Now the last bus home leaves at 6p.

            I haven’t owned a car in a while, and I cannot even find a job because employers don’t want to work around the useless bus schedule.

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                Sort of? I used to have a regular bicycle, but the route with the least grade is also the truck route with no shoulders on parts of it. I quit biking after I got run off the road by a semi, so I think the main problem is just a lack of infrastructure.

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                  Correct, but until you can fix the larger systemic issue, a 2-wheeler helps shield you from the monthly cost, stress of finding parking, traffic, etc when living in a carcentric hell.

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                PNW sadly enough. The fuckin neolibs running the area are using public transit to virtue signal how green they are without actually spending the money to make it actually effective. Gotta look good, so there’s multiple 15min bus lines, but it only covers a couple square miles, so nobody wants to pay the $2 when they could just walk.

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                  I almost moved to Seattle a few years ago. I loved Seattle, but I wanted to explore what was outside of Seattle. I could tell pretty quickly that the state of Washington wanted to consolidate it’s tax dollars in Seattle as much as possible to the detriment of the rest of the state that wasn’t Seattle.

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            And that forces you to treat people without cars as sub-human? No sympathy, or even empathy, for people who have to navigate such a landscape without one?

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              What does your comment have to do with what I said? I genuinely do not understand what you are trying to correlate here…

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      We had a similar issue in Boston like 20 years ago. There was all this undeveloped land on the southern edge of downtown from closed down former port and industrial areas. Then the city wanted to redevelop it, but everyone complained about losing thousands of low cost parking spaces.

      Now we see it was a good choice with an active newly developed part of the city and a couple additional subway lines. It really is better for most people to commute by train

      The only real objection now is how could we have developed a new part of the city without building a subway there. Stupid bus is stupid

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      Seriously! I get that we’re in a severe housing crisis, many people can barely afford rent and the homeless population is ever expanding, but won’t anyone think of the cars?

      Anyways, if you can’t afford an apartment, you can always sleep in your car! You can’t drive an apartment, checkmate liberals 😎

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      Maybe don’t drive in the dense urban downtown.

      Commuter? Park at the park and ride in your suburb or something

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      Just leave it at home or get rid of it. Buy an e-motorcycle and enjoy saving fuckloads of money long term. Even better take public transport if its available.