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They really should disaggregate recalls fixed with OTA updates from recalls that need a physical intervention. Obviously Teslas almost always need an OTA update
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That’s why Teslas are so cheap…right?
Lack of quality control
Cheap paint work
Cheap plastics panels all over the car
Underpaid workers
Etc
Keeps the price down
No, they are cheap because Tesla built extremely efficient factories, assembly lines and car designs from the start. Try to look up the differences between Tesla and other manufacturers like VW, Toyota etc…
They don’t do all the checks in process that are normal in automotive industry. They build them “good enough” and hope for the best. The plastics and frames don’t align and if you work in the industry and benchmark a Tesla you can quickly see where the cut corners
efficiency is when you have to recall your cars the most out of anybody because it’s more efficient to get them out the door and in to the
suckerscustomers hands and then fix them laterI was joking, they aren’t cheap, they’re average priced for a subpar car. The Ford Maverick is $25,000, a whopping $10,000 cheaper than the Model 3.
Edit: I’m stupid, I thought the Ford Maverick was the EV model. It’s in fact the Ford Lightning, which starts at $50,000. Teslas are in fact cheap.
Are you comparing the price of an EV to a gas powered car? Thats a pretty unrealistic comparison.
I dont disagree its a subpar car in terms of quality, but for an EV its a really good price.
Why are you comparing a compact Tesla to Ford trucks? Teslas are definitely expensive. And the model 3 isn’t $35k, it’s more like $50k.
They shouldn’t, because a LOT of those software updates were safety related.
Doesn’t OTA fixes by definition mean no recall?
No, they are for some reasons called recalls. Didn’t Tesla recall their entire fleet this spring? It was solved by OTA updates.
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I don’t know if it’s maybe a judicial thing or something or if they are technically required to do an official recall registered in some system, even if they can actually solve it OTA.
I would suspect the rules around required recalls are not really updated to reflect the extended amount of issues that a vertical system integrator like Tesla can solve OTA.
Ah, it’s one of those cases where de jure isn’t the same reality as de facto and the hack journalist pretends otherwise? Gotcha.
I’m officially joining team “fuck Musk and his shoddily built rolling ipads, but that’s bullshit bordering on journalistic malpractice”, I guess 🤷
I don’t have any agenda, I just tried answering your question.
I’m not complaining about you, I appreciate your answer and am sorry about the confusion lol
I was complaining about the law and whomever made the statistics and wrote the article pretending that completely different things are the same, didn’t mean to shoot the messenger!
It’s also worth, I think, pointing out that, for example, Lincoln has the 6th (I think) most recalled model as well as (again, I think) the second to least recalled model. So it shows that, in a lot of cases, it really depends on the model of the car rather than the manufacturer.
Except Tesla. 100% of Teslas current lineup is in the top 5.
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Mostly assembled. Teslas are mostly assembled. 😆
It’s like deconstructed food when they bring you a plate with all the ingredients on it.
“Uh, waiter. My bolognese tried veering into oncoming traffic.”
It’s mostly digital recalls solved by software updates over the air.
I am still waiting for a day of no frills EVs or just more no frills cars in general. Less crap in the way to repair and whatnot. But all I see passing car lots are bigger vehicles that look like they have so much stuff in them.
We need like a Kirkland brand EV. Unless I am an idiot and people don’t want stuff like that.
I love the tech in my car. The adaptive cruise control, heads up display, android auto, auto wipers, auto brights, lane keep assist, and blind spot detection in my Mazda are all used every single time I drive. Understand why people wouldn’t want some of those things but I love it.
The tech is great, but for a lot of people it’s not worth thousands of dollars – especially when you run the (potentially small) risk of paying twice if it breaks outside of warranty.
The Bolt EV or the Leaf are just that.
Sadly I had to wait 10 months, my dealer got a single SV Plus for me
I bought my first ev 8 months ago. 13k miles already and no maintenance cost yet. Absolutely love it and find any excuses to drive it.
I drove a gas guzzling 350hp coupe before jumping to a EV. I had my doubts but I’m glad I made the switch. It’ll be awhile until we get a Costco like vehicle (my bet is Toyota or Hyundai will come out with something huge).
My commute is 70 miles a day and it’s a blast. I drive it on weekends just because it’s fun. I don’t have any frills on it, just a screen I look at once in a while.5
What kind of EV?
Tesla model 3 performance. I know it gets shit on a lot for some reason but using it as a daily driver, it’s the best car I ever had.
M3 here, the autopilot features are incredible, highway driving just fades away.
Definitely worth it, can barely drive my suv now.
Toyotas EV is like that. ID4 is fairly basic. Chevy Bolt.
Tesla build quality is horrible.
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Intended to be a friendly reminder
Tesla owner ≠ muskonite
The cars literally changed the way they evaluate safety when the model s was released when i read about them in car and driver magazine many moons ago
Im writing this only in response to your edit. Because it was getting unearable on reddit any time someone mentioning they own a tesla and enjoy it, the people who hate elon come brigade and just shit all over someone because they bought a car they liked and admited they own one.
Can we just please remember that everything isnt always connected the way you assume it is. Give people the benefit of the doubt, and only call out what is stated and not just tangentially connected?
Ive been enjoying lemmy so far, and i have hope it will not become the cesspool other spaces have, but it wont happen if we cant agree to disagree and let other people be without accusing them of everything you fear or just hate without them indicating they are what you fear or hate.
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Lol, i dont own a tesla.
But this is exactly the kind of toxicity i was trying to highlight. So thank you
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You sound very sane and healthy to be around
Recall for a Tesla: send an ota update and the user doesn’t even notice it
Recall for other brands: send a snail mail letter asking to give the car to a dealer for an unspecified amount of time in order to do a replacement
toyota.
Toyota the least?!?!
