One mom said she cried for 10 days after hearing she was being removed from her daughter’s birth certificate.

  • Bappity
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    you have to be sub-human trash to be ok with this

    • trainsaresexy
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      The thought that keeps me sane through this is believing that the pendulum swings both ways. We have to accept that there are people who like this, and I’m going to hate them for it, but opposition will always exist.

      On the whole (a long time) things in society have improved and they’ll continue to improve over time. It might just be our lot to have a shit round.


      Except for climate change. That’s existential.

    • xuxebiko
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      right-wing political parties have '‘be sub-human trash’ written in their manifesto and yet people vote them into power.

      From the article “Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric a cornerstone of her campaign for office. She opposes allowing same-sex couples to adopt as well as marriage quality, calling civil union “good enough” for LGBTQ+ couples.”

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    Disgusting comments from some pro-lifers on this thread. Throwing this child into an orphanage when they had a stable family already is the anti-thesis of pro family doctrine. It’s hypocritical ultra right wing bigotry. All that remains of the right is their absolute hatred of the left. This really is the death of right wing majority governments. We saw their true colours during the January 6th capitol hill insurrection, during the BLM protests, during the Ukraine and Syria conflicts where Republicans teamed up with foreign enemy governments and during Obama’s presidency.

    • @Jordan_the_hutt@lemmy.world
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      These are the kinds of people who go to a book club meeting every Sunday for a book that clearly non of them have ever read.

      It’s insane that ultra-right fascists (in Italy and America at least) always define themselves as “Christian.”

      Christ would flip tables on them and pull out his whip

    • Farid
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      Shan-Yu: How many women does it take to raise a child?
      Archer: *pulling the bow string* One.

        • @Zeth0s@lemmy.world
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          No, there are unresolved conflicts in Italy sincw ww2, that was for Italy a civil war. They might lose elections, but the demons are part of Italian society.

          Funnily enough, US is partially responsible for the survival of these demons. They’ve survived after ww2 heavily financed by CIA (including the fascist party now in lead of the government). CIA also financed a failed fascist coup and terrorist groups meant to shift italian society to extreme right. These groups are famously responsible for terrorist attacks meant to be blamed on communists in the 70s, with 10s of deaths. More recently CIA have been financed heavy discredit campaigns against prominent left politicians, to the advantage of Berlusconi. They are clearly not the only responsible, they simply financed internal “demons”. But drifting italian politics to right has been a long term agenda, as Italy had at one point the biggest communist party outside russia, and socialists forces used to be extremely strong, exactly due to the underlying civil war never solved since ww2

  • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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    See this is what happens when you go to long without hanging all the fascists. Every 50 years or so you have to round them all up and find a gas station.

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        I don’t want to be better, I want to be alive. These people want to destroy minorities. It is SELF DEFENCE for everyone that is a member of a minority group and everyone that supports minorities to want to destroy fascists.

        None of this would be a fucking problem if you people actually did something about them in advance for once. Socialists recognise the need for re-education as a means of correcting when various parts of the population are going down the wrong path but liberals time and time again completely ignore the problem until it is too late plunging countries into conflict. You don’t do jack shit until the only solution is violence when in reality it could be solved non-violently much much earlier if you acknowledge that these people need putting through rehabilitation facilities.

        The fact of the matter is that it’s already too fucking late for that. Both in america and in several other countries. The only option now is the inevitability of things progressing until violence.

      • In the real world, evil must be met with appropriate force. Not every “right” action is covered in flowers and rainbows, sometimes you have to do hard, unlikeable things because otherwise people trying to change the world for the worse will succeed. You can’t give fascists a slap on the wrist.

        • @InputZero@lemmy.ml
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          Just checking; in your opinion those hard unlikeable things should not be someone’s first choice, and should be nearer to a last resort, correct?

  • @Anka@feddit.de
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    My daughter would loose her second mother though she has been there for her since birth and even before that.

    My wife would not be allowed to sign a document for our daughter or visit her in the hospital when she is sick.

    I absolutely don’t know how the Italiens can accept such a move.

  • @joshuaacasey@lemmy.world
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    I guess Italy didn’t learn their lesson about being fascist from getting their ass kicked in the second world war. Guess we’re gonna have to beat their ass to remind them.

  • @lulztard@lemmy.world
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    Facists announcing that they will oppress minorities when they’re being voted into power.

    Gets voted into power. Oppresses minorities.

    People

  • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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    Even if they hate homosexual couples, doing this retroactively as a surprise brings this to a whole new level. Are there any ways for these people to reobtain their parental rights, like adoption?

    • They cannot legally adopt in Italy. And even if they could i am not sure if that wouldn’t require the recognized parent to give them up first, so never both people can legally bebconsidered parents and have right to custody.

      • @mycroft@lemmy.world
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        Sounds like a great way to lose lots of smart, educated, well funded professionals from your population. They know they’re in the EU right?

        • The EU, while having standards on many social topics is primarily a trade union. There are attempts made to form it into more, but that reduces the power of local governments and most decisions require all 27 governments to be on board. In particular Poland and Hungary are run by right wing extremist authoritarian governments, that regularly blockade things to get their will.

  • @notavote@lemmy.world
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    My opinion is that state and law should not care about sex of a parent or partner. Just to guarantee us all the same rights.

    My other option is that this is quite bad news article (thou that might not be news site, so it is not on them, but on us) since there are a lot of opinions but is hard to find any facts in it.

    What exactly is the law? Who exactly is who? What are the consequences, practical not only emotional? This is raising fear levels, but I am not certain what to fight against (except whole Italian government).

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    There is no good reason for this and this will cause a large amount of issues, let alone the pain it causes to the families affected by it.

    This doesn’t seem purely populism for the anti-lgbtqia+ crowd, it seems too nuanced for that. I’m guessing it’s waiting until a high-placed official of the catholic church voices his support for Meloni during her next campaign.

    EDIT: It already happend, she was endorsed by a Cardinal and several other members of the Italian church.